I think the Red Sox overpaid for a guy who hasn’t thrown a ton of innings as a starter but I like the deal as a waypost towards what Skub should be getting.
8/300-320 feels like a ceiling compared to 6/170 for a live arm with 1 year of starting under his belt.
8/320, sounds like a deal…dangerous…yes, but still with way salaries are going.
Man that’s a lot of money for a guy who has had 1 healthy season out of 5 years.
Skubal is going to either mets, Yankees, or LAD.
Mets are at 90% payroll to revenue. They are done with big deals for a bit, IMO.
I dont think Skub is a NY or LA guy. Pretty good odds a deal gets done here. 8/320 is basically Miggy’s deal adjusted for revenue increases.
I don’t see cheap Ilitch spending that.
Well, it is to be determined if Ilitch is in fact, cheap.
Then whats the excuse then. Im dead serious on this
Excuse for what?
Not spending
Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems like the stadium is pretty empty a lot of the time. Obviously not late last year. Is that impacting spending?
They also got burned on some free agent deals so that could be a factor too. If you are spending and hitting…great. But spending on Baez and Kenta that hurts.
My jays love to give out terrible contracts. Lol
I think I expressed my thoughts in Weasel’s thread on spending.
Tigers draw was like 27k a game, pretty much mlb average.
They tried to spend on Bregman. They spent 30m in fa in addition to the 28 they offered Bregman…
Yep just posted.
Nice find. Yeah I was talking 2024.
So, long term, when they suck they draw 20k, when they are top team, 35k and when. 500 about 27k.
For the impact, you have to see how much they made in justbgame day rev and profit last year and bulk that up by 8k fans a game for peak. They probably had a few rough years like most w COVID, but they made good $ last year at 49% payroll to rev from my chart, so the “we have to C19 recover” window is closed with the fans.
Figured I’d throw this in here discussing pitcher health from a dodger angle and touches on velo and spin, all the rage in MLB now. Sadly probably in HS as well.
My Athletic email this am
What’s behind Dodgers’ awful pitcher health?
The Dodgers, with their nearly $400 million roster, may soon need to pull a kid out of the stands, Henry Rowengartner-style, and put him on the mound.
At one point this month, the defending champs had 14 pitchers on the injured list. That didn’t even count Shohei Ohtani, who this week made his first mound appearance in almost two years. With Ohtani and the now-oft-injured Clayton Kershaw back in action, the Dodgers have seven starters and six relievers on the IL this weekend.
Some of this could have been expected. L.A. seemed to have gone out of its way to acquire talented arms with durability questions. Tyler Glasnow and Blake Snell were hurt a lot long before they donned Dodger Blue. Even Ohtani, a unique case, was coming off Tommy John surgery when the Dodgers signed him. But the quantity is jarring even in an injury-laden game.
So I had to ask Fabian Ardaya, The Athletic’s Dodgers reporter, what’s going on. It’s not like the Dodgers are the only team telling pitchers to throw hard and spin the ball, so what gives? Fabian gives us some great intel:
“They have absolutely gone out and targeted talented arms with checkered injury histories,” he tells me. “Part of how they rationalized acquiring Glasnow was the ability to lock down a premium-level talent at a less-than-premium cost.”
The Dodgers have been fine with that in part because “they’re very good at developing intriguing arms that either can capably handle a few big-league innings or be interesting enough to other teams to flip in trades for more pitching.” See: 26-year-old Ben Casparius and his 3.02 ERA in 23 games (two starts).
“They aren’t the only team prioritizing velo and spin, but they seemingly go closest to the red line. They had the hardest-throwing rotation in the sport at Double-A Tulsa in 2023. All of those guys have since either gotten hurt or hit a bump in the road. Some of that is an occupational hazard. Another part of it is that the stuff it took to get those guys to the big leagues is what caused them to break down.”
Whew. It feels like the Dodgers are a microcosm of pitching development in general with everything dialed up to 11, doesn’t it?
Losing pitchers at this kind of rate isn’t sustainable, but then again, the incentives are all there for the status quo. For some of these arms, it’s maximizing their potential and getting them into the big leagues in the first place while understanding the hazards behind it. The team, the same thing.
To Fabian’s last point on incentives: L.A. is 47-30 and leading the NL West by four and a half games.
There are no excuses….i think its all in your head as is with most things! 
