Bare with him. Geno Smith has had a highly successful NFL career by OSU standards. 
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“One of these things is not like the otherrrr…”
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Why can’t it be my opinion that if we’re talking about an extension to a player’s contract, then we should be basing it on multiple years of successful play with our team? Again I don’t care what he did somewhere else when it comes to an extension on his contract.
The Broncos gave Russell Wilson a 5 year $221M or something extension before he played a snap for them basing it on production with another team. How’d that work out?
Even the Rams extended Goff and then regretted it. He’s clearly a better player now than he was after the Super Bowl run for them, but he was also really good back during that Super Bowl run and then regressed. We don’t know if he’s going to regress here too. It’s unlikely, but since he has 2 more years on his deal (I’m pretty sure), why extend him now?
Again just my personal opinion. If they extended him today I’d understand it and support the move because I trust our front office.
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What’s funny is Goff only has two losing seasons in his entire football career. The guy is a winner and always has been. Sean McVay loses and its Goff’s fault, Goff wins it’s because of the coaches. McVay just had a losing season, it’s because of injuries. Goff has a losing season last year with most the WR’s out along with the O-line and he “sucks because he can’t win.”
The only reason anyone doubts him at all is because McVay says so. The statistics and record say the exact opposite. Goff has been good/great on numerous teams with numerous coaches starting in high school, through college and then the NFL. The guy is a winner.
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Everybody is free to express their opinion, that’s what message boards are for. And others are free to laugh at you.
But let’s be clear. Your opinion is that you don’t like Goff and want him replaced. Everything else is just backing into whatever argument you need to make at the time, which is what I find funny when people post it. At some point you might join the “we need to use a 1st round pick on a QB in case Goff gets hurt” shenanigans!
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Hmm…
Yep that really says “I don’t like Goff and I want him to be replaced”.
I don’t want him to be replaced. Like Brad said, it’s a lot easier to get worse than Jared Goff to get better than Jared Goff.
I don’t even know if I would take Bryce Young in the mythical scenario where he’s on the board for us, and I think he’s going to be a superstar.
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He does? Hasn’t he already done that? Hasn’t he orchestrated like 3 top ten offenses already to date?
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I resign him sooner rather than later, each year you wait the price keeps going up. If it’s 35 million per now, it’s 40 milluon per next year, and so on.
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You are absolutely entitled to your opinion.
We have Constitutional Right to be wrong.
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So are saying… using this logic… that using stats to look at incoming draftees, that we should not care about anything they did anywhere else? If Mahomes was coming to Detroit, would you be ‘blah’, because no one should care what he did anywhere else?
I know that’s not actually what you’re thought process is… but it seems to me that’s the logic you certainly implied
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Putting all that together, I’m more and more convinced McVay just needed a scapegoat for his ego
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The Detroit Lions are now his worst nightmare, come true.
He has the QB we broke and we fixed the QB he broke.
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Well obviously college to NFL means you can’t give them a contract extension because they’re signed to rookie deals based off of their draft slot.
Again I’m talking about an extension to a contract.
The odds of Mahomes failing here are very low if he was to come here, and I wouldn’t be ‘blah’ about the move. If they were to give him a $40M APY extension before he shows us that he can be successful here (*cough Russell Wilson), then I’d be a little skeptical, but Mahomes is a generational player and Goff isn’t so the situation isn’t totally the same.
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I agree. Who knows what Goff’s play going to look like 2 years from now. Honestly, by investing in a qb with potential you’re essentially protecting yourself for the future. This isn’t hating on Goff but possibly extending our window to contend.
If not Richardson i still would like to see us take a qb who could be a starter in 2 years.
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I understand your point, however, I do think, perhaps you are to be fair to you, that you need to also consider that two members of the front office deciding on Goffs extension have been with him from his first day in the NFL.
My point being, their history is from day one of Goff’s NFL career and I believe the extension, for them, will include those years in LA as part of the justification. May make this case unique.
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If Mahomes were to come here next year, he would be the same age as Goff is now, which is according to a lot of opinions way to old.
We’re not drafting a ******* qb this ******* year. (In the ******* 1st round)
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Umm……he won a SUPER BOWL with that QB
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This isn’t goff’s rookie year. We have more than enough film on him, both good and bad, to wonder if he’s indeed grown into his potential or if that’s being masked by a very good coordinator. Especially when you’re looking at a $200m extension. I’d rather not get stuck in a Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson situation. I truly hope Goff is our quarterback long term. I think he’s grown as a player and leader. It doesn’t mean I still don’t have questions or reservations though.
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Geno is 32 and has had 1 good season out of 9 as an NFL starter. He’s never won a playoff game. His career QB rating is under 84.8.
Goff is 4 years younger. Has only been below Geno’s average his rookie season. His rating has been 90 or above 5 of his 7 years in the league. He’s got 3 playoff wins and a QB rating of 92.8.
It cracks me up that so many national media types still have the Lions as a team that should draft a QB and Seattle not going QB.
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