I’m surprised to see Peyton so low on some of these lists. He was a laser-armed football robot.
Favre was so fun to watch (FTP) against other teams, even though his stats aren’t as great as some of these others he was so charismatic on the field that he’s ranked high on my list. Retirement antics not withstanding.
Rivers is a personal favorite of mine too. He was so good at times. Imagine if Eli didn’t pull the draft thing and rivers went to the giants.
Stafford is really making a HOF case. I do think his time in Detroit holds him back some. He was good here but has taken a real step since the trade.
I think Stafford is a first ballot HOF guy at this point.
He has top 10 stats in many categories….
but more importantly….
his 7-2 record in playoffs since joining Rams in past 5 years is HOF caliber in itself… especially with his elite passing numbers in those games.
A win on Sunday absolutely cements first ballot HOF.
I wasn’t a Stafford slappy either…. but probably mostly just disillusioned by the failures of this franchise. OTOH…. as much as I wanted the Rams to suck so the Lions could get better beans… he went and won the fukking Lombardi.
With Stafford, it’s important to remember he missed many games his first 2 seasons. His first healthy season he led us to the playoffs and played great against New Orleans.
Loved Stafford in a Lions uniform, however I’m a huge Sam Darnold fan tomorrow.
All-time favorite QB…but yeah he’s behind Erin and Drew Brees imo. I’m putting him ahead of Patrick Mahomes though. I just think Pat has been gifted 2 of his 3 titles. He also hasn’t been anything spectacular in the statistical department in years.
now he could climb if he continues winning. But if he doesn’t win anymore titles I don’t think he belongs on a top 10 all-time list
Just to be clear Stafford doesn’t either. That 12 year stretch here is just too damning for his resume to get there.
I don’t really hold that against him because its not damning for his resume as much as its damning toward the Lions organization. Its ridiculous that any organization had Stafford, CJ81 and Suh (and peak Ansah) and couldn’t get any further than a loss in the WC game. To me, Stafford is the exact same guy, the exact same caliber of QB, just put in a far superior environment. He did the right thing asking out., that’s for sure.
I never bought this one. It was more like the Lions had a game plan, and then it failed. And after that they relied on Stafford playing hero ball. That’s not a Stafford issue. Its a team issue. I will say 2013 in particular I think was Stafford’s worst year and he could’ve done more.
Did HE tear your heart out, or did the team though? I don’t remember too many games where Stafford was clearly the reason we lost like a last minute gaffe or something. I always found him to be elite level clutch. I mean 2016 the Lions made the playoffs with a negative two point differential. That pretty much never happens without elite QB play. He had 8 fourth quarter comebacks/eight game winning drives and he did it with not perfect stats, but also a damaged finger that hurt him on the back stretch of the season and in the playoff game. And that was the first year after Calvin retired. Also, how many mediocre WRs had career years with Stafford. I would definitely say he raised their play…
Brady, Rodgers and Manning were ridiculous. Stafford is operating at a high level right now, but peak Brady, Rodgers, and Manning were an elite level that was just unfair to the rest of the league.
Brees has to be considered as superior for his ridiculous accuracy and production.
Then we probably get into a Mahomes conversation. He does some of the things Stafford does, plus he has mobility.
Surprised by the love Ben’s getting. I don’t see it with him. I’d put Eli Manning above him and probably Russell Wilson.
Anyway, Stafford falls out of my top 5:
Brady
Elway
Manning
Rodgers
Mahomes
Stafford
Manning did have a winning record in the playoffs. Brady’s defenses were much better than Manning’s defenses. Its really amazing Manning actually got some of theose Colts teams TO the playoffs. Brady’s teams were undoubtedly better in the playoffs, but he absolutely had more to work with.
I’m not calling anyone lazy, but just looking at rings is a very lazy way to rank the great modern QB’s. I’ve never seen a QB command the field of play before and during a play as Manning did. He was a maestro.
It’s tough to judge wins + talent. If Peyton Manning won once it’s hard for me to still not have him top 4. Eli won twice and we know he isn’t one of the best. Not to mention other QB’s who have won SB’s.
But I’m going to agree with this. Erin is generational and won it once, but he’s had opporutnity after opporutnity and hasn’t squeaked. Those guys were contenders every damn year.
My list of all-time.
1 - Brady. Tom Brady is also the best ever because he did it without a cannon arm, speed, power, running, or any other crazy attritbute these others have.
2 - Montana. Similiar to Brady.
3 - Mahomes
4 - Peyton Manning. It’s almost criminal to have him 4th and not higher.
5 - Stafford if he wins MVP and the SB this year. If not it’s Elway.
If Stafford doesn’t win the SB he’s somewhere in the top 10 still but a big drop.
Arron Rogers is the most overrated QB of all time. Dude played on many good packers teams and got a lot of chances in the playoffs and got one ring in many chances. Lions Fans think so much of him because he stole there hearts away so many years only to go and get bounced. Like they have undervalued Stafford and overvaluing Rogers.
Well get he had the MVPs but that seems like a popular contest some times. I think he gets far more credit then he deserves, the packers made the playoffs yearly with some pretty popular teams. And they would underachieve , so if he is not overrated he at least got to be considered one of the biggest underachievers in that situation.
