I've been a Quinn supporter. However

Quinn, and Patricia, should be on the hot seat here. They probably aren’t; I presume they’ll get another season next year almost regardless of what happens this year. But they should be.

Despite Quinn’s mid-round successes in the draft: Golladay, Hand, Walker, Agnew … he has some big-time whiffs at the top of the draft. Teez Tabor, and Jarrad Davis is trending that way. Davis can’t do pass coverage, played downhill at Florida, and Tavai (who I’d place on the ‘disappointment’ side of the ledger at this early juncture) is filling that downhill role. So with Davis it’s like The Two Bobs in the movie Office Space, “What would you say it is you do here?”

Taylor Decker probably doesn’t deserve a second contract.

The rest of the first-, second-, third-round pics just are kinda meh. They’re OK.

Kerryon Johnson was a fumbling, regressed disappointment before he got injured. Again.

Connected, and importantly, Patricia was brought in to be a defensive guru. The defense isn’t good.

Quinn has invested the most attention, draft and free agent capital in the offensive line and defensive line. Neither one is good.

It’s year four. Should Quinn not be evaluated on this?

To attempt to buy more time, is Quinn going to try to blame Patricia for not using and developing the players in the right way, as Millen once did when he fired Mariucci? I thought Quinn and Patricia were aligned in a way that a GM and coach rarely are?

Several of you have talked about how the schedule is going to improve now, and the wins might start coming. That in its own way is dismaying, as the Lions just never handle expectations. They win when it’s easy and means less.

Basically, I’m moving to results-oriented mode with Quinn. In much the same way I did with Stafford last season. No more excuses. Results. Or accountability.

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Until Hand plays and is good again I don’t even think he gets the benefit of the doubt.

He ended the season on ir last year too.

Golladay and Walker are the only true hits.

Agnew kick return TD barely makes up for him fumbling earlier this season.

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I hear the schedule gets easier talk, and i’ve said it too. But as a fanbase this way of thinking should not be acceptable. Why should we expect to beat average or below-average team but then it’s okay to lose to the tough game? After all we all want us to be a good team and don’t good teams make the playoffs? And there lies the problem of not being able to beat good teams

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I do see the schedule getting easier. I so see that we got outplayed by MN.
I also see that we beat GB, and debatably KC, if not for horrific officiating.
Also tons of injuries.

If we have that Packer win, none of these conversations are even happening.

The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. I don’t think these dudes should be on the hot seat, yet. Part of the problem here is that we switch systems every 3 years. We need some continuity. I believe in Quinn. I feel like this most recent move could hurt the locker room, though. We’d better hit on something soon. If we lose a game or two that we are supposed to win, it’s going to get really ugly around here. Rightfully so.

Our guys looked emotionally hungover from the loss to the refs up in GB. We are usually mentally tougher than that.

I see teams getting more polished. It’s the teams that can do “the next man up” that go to the party.
I guess we’ll see in next week’s episode.

The problem is, trading away players eats at the depth, and throws the next man up concept right out da window.

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I expect Hand to be ready against the Giants with limited snaps.

I heard there’s this up an coming coach who will be a front runner for HC gigs this next offseason. Maybe we should look at getting him and giving him full control?

His name is Jim Schwartz!

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love people calling out Quin and Patricia after refs helped to screw us out of wins, defense started last season ice cold to, but was top ten by the end of 2018.

defense struggling the start of 2019 as well, all the bogus calls and non-calls against us cost us how many games??? OR you’d be singing a different tune.

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And so after 6 games, we’re going help the NFL justify their corruption by tanking the season with shitty coaching and management?
I’m not buying in!

The games haven’t been played going forward, so how can you say "we’re just losing to lose the rest of the season? we might beat our remaining opponents. if we lose each and every game from now on I’ll find it quite hard to keep watching Lions games. but I’m not going to pretend I KNOW we are just tanking from now on.

KJ to IR. Okay, shit happens.
Diggs (a starter) and a 7th for a 5th round pick next year? As mentioned, he’s flexible enough to play Nickle when Slay is down. We’re not that deep!
Bellichik can pressure QB’s, but, Patricia can’t? With the secondary we HAD?
Not buying it!

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Quin is a bum and Fat Pat is awful. Firing Caldwell was the worst move since hiring Millen. SOL with this squad of has been, never weres.

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3 weeks ago people and media were praising Quinn for his talent acquisition. It’s 6 games into year 2 under Patricia. We have no idea how the final 10 games will play out. Quinn and Patricia should be no where near a hot seat for at least another season.

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Exactly - or longer. They’ve improved the talent a lot. We get credit for the win that we actually earned at GB, and most of this talk is null and void, anyway.

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I agree, if they had been getting blown out, that’s one thing, they could have easily won 2 of the 3 they just lost.

I am not optimistic about the rest of the season though, I think these games have been a blow to the team and they will likely just continue to implode. Hope I am wrong.

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If this season goes off the rails with Stafford playing like he has you have to consider moving on from Patricia.

Especially with the upcoming schedule.

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Dumping star players midsession is a habit Quinn needs to break. It’s a moral killer!
We’re having a hard time keeping players on the field and he gets rid of starters.

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Now this I can agree with, if the Lions are in that 5-7 win category at the end of the season, or even if the trend is heading that way in December then both of them should be on the hot seat. But since it is October and only 6 weeks in then by no means should they be consider on the hot seat for a 2/3/1 record.

If we only win 5 games with Matthew frickin Stafford as our QB, I want heads to roll.

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