Right, that’s ridiculous and I won’t do that. Honestly that’s what I like about mockdrafthero, I choose “all teams” and scurry through the first 25-35 picks or so myself to ensure there’s very little nonsense, then switch over to the Lions only and the draft hums along. The 2nd is when you really start to get some surprises.
Trade ups no write ups tho…
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Well everyone wants to trade down, I do that plenty too. I just don’t post them since they seem less realistic than trading up or staying put under Brad. They’re more for wishcasting fun.
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I feel like this draft has a bit of everything we need, and at spots that make sense for us…
DT- we should have our starters in MAC and Tyliek, but beyond them? Guys like Robinson, Capehart, McClellan, Durant, Corleone, and Proctor all feel like nice DT3-DT4 options, and I’d take one of each- a small 3T interior rush guy, and a backup NT type….
LB- there are quite a few mid round Chase and tackle, potentially solid in coverage guys. If we invested in Rodriguez or Hill Jr early, great, but then guys like Golday, Rolder, K Louis, Jack Kelly, Lander Barton could all be interesting LB3/4 type options
IOL- we could go big with Vega and be pretty dominant from LT- RG, and pair Borom with a mid round RT prospect… or spend less on securing LG in round 2 with Rutledge…. We could take Fano and have options at LG or RT depending on how Borom and Mahogany look. We could wait and take a guy like Gublin or Slaughter, or Beau Stephens later
OT- Miller, Fano, are all really solid- set and forget players to complete the OL, or trade down and take Max and grab an extra high pick, and potentially have two all world bookends?
TE- mid round TE2 types like Bentley, Royer, or Koziol
Edge- Lawrence, Jacas, and Parker are the only ones I’m really intrigued by potential impact guys. I actually like picking up one of the vets and seeing if a guy like Moore drops enough.
Safety- we have so much talent, and too some extent so much invested at safety to go there early, unless the brass knows that Kerby is done or close too it. I’d grab a vet to insure Joseph
CB- depending how we feel about the Arnold saga, there are some players here that definitely intrigue me.
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I think the draft is pretty middling overall, but there are a few guys at each position I like. Usually there’s a lot more than a few though. If we needed a MIKE I’d think the class was pretty deep, and CB and S are good on day 2, TE is fairly deep with pass-catchers, but overall I think every position is pretty weak.
If you need a day one stand out starter yes… though I think Blake Miller and Fano will both be very…. very good.
I think J Rodriguez and Jack would be fire.
Vega and Rutledge will both be really good starting LGs imo… for many years.
I think K Scott and D Ponds are both sure fire starters be it at CB or NB, depending on which you took.
I think Parker and Jacas could both fit what we want in an edge, but also give us 7-10 sack upside.
there are a ton of Osi O type undersized bully 3T, and we could use that if we’ve given up on Wingo.
I think Rodriguez thrives in the same spots we play Jack. I think he’s great at it, but he’s not the sort of LB you can just play anywhere with any style and he’ll be a success. Most of them aren’t, remember when we played Jack so often at SAM his rookie season? He wasn’t nearly as good.
For all of Rodriguez’s strengths, he’s just not a very big guy and can get knocked around by size. That’s the difference between him and Jack as prospects, otherwise they have a lot of the same strengths. But to get the best out of Rodriguez you HAVE to protect him. He had the luxury of playing behind one of college football’s best DLs this year, and I think that’s how you get the best out of him. He wouldn’t be protected nearly as well at WILL.
Yes, he has a skill for getting through the wash, but once someone gets their hands on him, he really has to work at it. And credit to him, he does a better job than most guys with his disadvantages, but in the end there’s only so much he can do at that size (our Rodrigo, conversely, has the core strength and wrestling background to toss guys aside, despite being similarly-sized, but he’s more tightly wound and doesn’t move quite as well). I also think his aggressive angle-taking will be exacerbated at WILL, he already misses way too many tackles as it is.
Long-winded way of saying I don’t think he’s the best fit for us. I also don’t think we’re the best fit for him. He needs to go somewhere he can roam behind some big boys two-gapping and taking up blocks, so he can run around freely and make plays.
I like Rutledge, but I think he’s more of a RG than a LG. I like Scott and Ponds too, but they’re in that narrow group of guys I was talking about being a strength of the class at CB/S. I like Jacas at 50 only, and think Parker will get overdrafted.
Like I said, there are a few guys I like. It’s just on the whole, when I’m going down the position groups, I think the vast majority are overvalued by a round or more. That’s what happens in a thin class when the amount of underclassmen available has plummeted by 60+% from just 5 years ago. It’s inevitable.
We enter the draft with 9 selections. What would you say the over/under is for how many players we actually select?
Over/under 8
Usually we draft 7 or 8
We haven’t drafted more than that under Brad
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If you set it at 7.5 I think I would still bet the under. I think picks will be packaged to move up in rounds 4 and 5.
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I agree with almost all of this, outside of seeing Rodriguez almost in a Milano type mold. I could be dead wrong in Rutledge, but I do love Vega or even Mauigoanof he somehow fell (as a RT or LG).
We have 2 bullets in the top 100… and they are both top 50
I agree that I don’t see one clear… he’s an all pro in 2 years player projected in the #17 overall range.
Styles, Downs, Bain are interesting trade ups…
Trading down 6-7 spots should net a round 2 and round 4 pick swap.
Parker, Vega, Fano, Miller- I would bet one would be available early 20s for sure, and I truly think any would be a day one starter. I don’t love Parker, but I think he’s a sturdy and athletic edge who could get 6-9 sacks a year for 3M per
with a pair of round 2’s I think we agree that Scott, Ponds, a few safeties, Jacas, and maybe Lawerence are all guys who could easily contribute in 26’.
Miller
Jacas
K Scott
Plus a pick in 4, and 2 in 5 plus some late fodder
4- DT
5- WLB
5- TE2/3
Would you take this?
Milano is similarly-sized, but he was a WILL at BC. And a former safety rather than a former QB. Very different situation, with completely different backgrounds, play styles, and scheme responsibilities. What they were asked to do on their college tape looks nothing alike.
Of course, but there are almost no scenarios I wouldn’t take. In fact for me it’s more about the players than the positions we draft, you could swap out different players at those same positions and I might hate it more (Proctor instead of Miller) or like it more (Lawrence instead of Jacas). There are just so many possibilities.
But I really don’t think a trade-down is in the cards, either.
Agree.. and of course the draft won’t play out like any of the Sims, and we know that. This is in fact a draft sim thread though.
There are a group of guys like Gublin, Zuhn, Slaughter, and Logan Jones that could offer great value in 4-5 as a more talented backup C, and maybe a 2-3 year heir apparent.
There are plenty of unique DT prospects in that range too. Robinson, Durant, or Proctor all give 350 snaps 2-4 sack mini rush DTs
Guys with great size overall and solid athleticism like McLellan and Capehart could be late round steals and rotational DTs.
Guys like Dallen or even Koziol with no pressure to start are intriguing.
I don’t like Proctor at all, but give me Killer or Fano opposite Sewell, with a prime aged vet swing? Yes please.
I like DDS more than most in here
That’s my entire draft. We get 4 players and we Get Jacksonville’s 1st rounder next year. We did not trade any future picks
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Any 2027 1st is a good draft
The players in that draft didn’t fall the way I wanted. I thought I had Lawrence in the bag in the 2nd. When he went I traded up for Banks. The rest was just get the best player at those positions I could swing.
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Went with a all defense draft with a trade up for Reese.
Also not pictured is us picking up a 2027 5th 6th and 7th rd picks
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Don’t love giving up the 2027 pick, but pretty interesting to see a move for Reese, you don’t see that one as often.
I been doing the trade down type of drafts and so I was like let’s try a trade up I traded up to 4 before the draft because I know 1 of reese/bain/downs would be there potentially even 2 of them with Bailey sneaking in along with Mendoza being chosen at #1
Trading the 2027 2nd does hurt but adding a player of Reese caliber to this defense would be huge