Copp and Compher are DECENT the problem? They are NEVER in the offensive zone. (Bottom 5 in NHL in offensive ice time) leading to the lowest shot attempts on the team.
Yet in terms of efficiency. They are above average.
Way to go Kane u idiot!
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Thats the problem. Only Steves 1st round picks are doing anything remotely well in the NHL.
Tuomisto and Mastrosimone, Niederbach, GONE
Wallender & Buium? Might be a decent 3rd line D.
Mazur is one of their top forwards prospects for the next 2 years. Mid 6 at best.
James MIGHT get signed after the NCAA season is over. Hes gonna need another year or 2, as is Danielson.
ASP and MBN are gonna need another year or 2.
Do you think that this is specifically a Steve problem or do you think that this is a common theme across most NHL teams? My guess is it’s probably somewhere near league average or better for the Wings.
When I looked at games played this offseason when you brought up a similar point, the Wings were getting league average+ playing time from their draft picks. I’ll do another pass after the season, but I don’t feel like Steve is doing a worse job at getting his guys to the NHL. Some produce well (Raymond, Seider), some have been moderate (Finnie, ASP - 7th round pick btw), some have yet to produce (I’d put Kasper here after this year)
I’m not disagreeing this team stinks right now. But we’ve talked it to death about why that is over the offseason and throughout the year. The majority of the team still isn’t made up of Steve’s picks (whether this ends up working out or not, who knows?), no good FA wants to come here, and it’s hard to trade for good players.
Idk, I look at this team and still see them in the early steps of a rebuild despite how long Steve has been here. Whether he gets to stick around and see how it all turns out is a different story. But I don’t/have never thought the Wings were close enough to be a real competitor this year or that they should be trading 1st rounders and assets to acquire guys unless you’re getting long-term studs (like if we’d traded for Robert Thomas this trade dead line).
Trades like the Faulk one just do nothing other than throw resources away, imo. But I think Steve was feeling the heat from fans and specifically, his crybaby captain who couldn’t lead a team out of a wet paper bag.
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Because steve isnt trading any prospects!
Not every prospect cant even make the team if they wanted too.
He finally did this year and got a very marginal return.
Because sure redwings are above NHL average in terms of draft pick ice time.
But the NHL trends since the salary cap era. It doesnt take 12 years to make the playoffs and it doesn’t take 20 years to make a deep playoff run.
Yet here we are. The young players are playing because theres no one else on the roster. And they aren’t great
What that chart tells me vs the teams success. Steve is REALLY good drafting bottom half roster players
Not great at acquiring top line talent
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Heard a stastic on a hockey sportscast that in the NHL, there is literally a statistical 99.8% chance that over a 7 year period, a team would make the playoffs at least once during those 7 years…and yet still got ppl around here apparently making excuses and lowkey trying to shine this turd? And dont ask me what the team/Steve should do…I dont know, but I dont get paid/it’s not my job to figure it out…it’s Steve’s ■■■■■■■ job to figure it out, and quite frankly, he sucks at it.
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Wings now hold the drought at 10 years.
Calgary, Philly CBJ, chicago and san jose are between 4-7
EVERY OTHER TEAM is 3 or less.
So yes its almost statistically impossible to do what the wings have done
Yet here it is.
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If we don’t make the playoffs, even though I do like Faulk. In hindsight that’s going to be a bad trade. Not having a first rounder and not making the playoffs… ouch
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It’s already a bad trade.
Wings have zero chance of advancing beyond the 1st round even if they get lucky and make the playoffs.
Giving up Buch and a 1st rounder for an old defenseman was a terrible trade.
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I do think there is value in making the playoffs for this team though, particularly when it comes to trying to get the culture flipped.
Speaking of bad trades, we traded for Perron for his grit, drive, experience, etc to hopefully help get this team into the playoffs as well. Someone posted him following golf places two days ago lol, goes to show where his mind is at
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Postgame interviews. Copp kinda blames the reporters for the atmosphere and pressure on the team. These reporters by the way which are the softest most do nothing ask nothing reporters in the league.
Blast this whole team off to the sun. To paraphrase the Big Lebowski:
“does this team look like a millionaire?”
“This team looks like a ■■■■■■■’ loser.”
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Copp was a terrible signing from day 1…..
can’t wait until he is gone.
There is just no way to sugar coat it.
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Diehard Oilers fan here. Walman was actually really good last year when he played elevated minutes on the left side and especially in the playoffs when Ekholm was injured. This season he was atrocious because they foolishly played him on the right side, his weak side, next to Nurse who everybody seems to struggle with and now he’s playing better again back on the left side but he’s definitely not a top pairing guy and I’m questioning why they traded a 1st for and re-signed him to a 7x7 contract when he can’t play the right side which is where the team weakness is, they’re stacked on the left. He’s a good player though but highly volatile defensively.
Anyway, that was a brutal loss for the Wings today. I didn’t see the game but looking at the score to come back from 4-1 down to tie at 4 late only to lose in regulation is a terrible loss following up a loss to the tanking Rangers. The Red Wings would be in better position if they were in the Metro because they’d have a shot at two playoff spots but being in the Atlantic only gives them one avenue to the playoffs with the final wild card and this weekend went a long way towards keeping them out of the playoffs.
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Yzerman needs to wake up. If he does have one year he needs to make moves. Enough holding on to prospects . I didn’t like trading a old def Who is bottom 4 defender for a 1st round pick. Even if they make a trade for Hughes, and still miss the playoffs you have him to build around in future , you don’t get that with Faulk.
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Better Q&A here than anything from a red wings interview. 
That would be true if Quinn Hughes was willing to sign an extension.
However… he wasn’t willing to do an extension….
so he is signed for the same term as Faulk.
If the Wings had traded 3 top prospects and a 1st round pick for Hughes… and then he left as a free agent next summer, how would the team look?
He doesnt want to sign an extension “with Minnesota”
He wants to “be closer to Michigan”
Last i checked Detroit is pretty close to Michigan
He may preferred a trade a trade to Detroit… but he wasn’t willing to agree to an extension.
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That was the deal breaker.
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Yes but reports also state. “They never really got to the extension possibilities with Hughes because Steve was unwilling to move on from Edvinsson and a young center prospect. With out that Vancouver ended negotiations”
So who knows if Hughes was even willing to sign an extension with Detroit when Vancouver hung up the phone when steve said no.
Hughes couldn’t even sign an extension until thus summer… per NHL rules…
so there were no real details to explore.
That makes it seem to me… logically… that Hughes just wasn’t open to committing to an extension prior to a trade.
Without a commitment to an extension…. I can understand why Yzerman wouldn’t pull the trigger on that trade.
Considering that this team isn’t ready to compete this year in the playoffs and very likely not next year… even with a Quinn Hughes addition, I think he made the correct decision.