Red Wings 2nd Half Thread

Quick and dirty of the miracle that needs to happen. 3 games each remaining

Think of the race like this.
OTT. 4.5 points
DET 1 points
NYI 0.5 points
CBJ 0 points

Wings have NJD, TBL, FLO
OTT has NYI, NJD, TOR
NYI have OTT, MYL, CAR
CBJ have MTL, BOS, WAS

Ottawa gets 3 points its game over

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So we’re done, see you guys again next season

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This team has been done for a long time now.

The young guys haven’t taken the big steps needed to be competitive, and the vets just aren’t very good.

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I saw a stat the other week. We have like exactly the same amount of goals from our top 6 as we did two years ago.

We have something crazy like 100 less goals from our bottom 6 then we did two years ago

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1 point away from elimination.

Ottawa needs just 1 more point in 2 games.

Wings need to get 6 points in 3 games.

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This may be an unpopular opinion, but I’ll be glad when this season is over so they stop wearing those centennial jerseys.

Keeping our dwindling hopes alive.. this team I tell ya!

Season over with the loss to jersey. This game showed that the Wings need changes as when push came to shove, they found a way to lose points / games.

What to do ? Will be interested to see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

So Go Pistons

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yep, go Pistons and go Tigers.

The wings deserved to be booed loudly off the ice. And seeing them all crying on the bench and all dejected when they did this all to themselves, again. They need some serious change.

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Its all part of yzermans 25 year plan to get us back into the playoffs.

The wings of March/April for several years
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Yeah its inevitable that changes have to happen this offseason

Larkin might be gone, hes a great scorer but god damn, as the leader of this team he does not deserve that stripe rn, team plays with no fire, no urgency, it feels like they dont actually care about winning and thats reflected from him.

Yzerman… hes gone, or there is one year left, that trade to St. Louis is a massive backfire now, have them a lottery pick… could very much be the straw that breaks the camels back with his time here, 10 year drought. Honestly if anything is a damning indictment, look at Montreal, they were ass for a shorter period of time then the Red Wings, yet they made the playoffs now again more recently then them.

not much else to say, offseason is gonna be ugly i think, team will be facing a big roadblock with what to do with the Yzerplan

Alright. I’ll be the first one to ask…

How exactly does ANOTHER lottery pick fix any of the problems this team has?

Justin Faulk was a good player for us this year, and he will likely be a good player for us next season as well. I don’t know how getting another guy that’s another five years away from being a possible NHL contributor is worth anything to this franchise at the moment.

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I think its less the pick being a lottery pick now, and more the downsides that the team was just not ready to be a playoff team… which again, indictment on Yzerman and Davicus said it to, felt like spending to spend. Faulk was solid… but when you spend the capital like that you need to see the return from it, and the team did not, and is feeling that now. We dont even know if Faulk is coming back either too after next seasons finished.

Honestly though, my issue isnt the pick at the end of the day and the trade, its that Yzerman has been given sufficent time to build up this team. Yes, he inherited one of the shitest situations in sports, and hes done a very solid job in building this team back up now… but it feels like the past two to three years the team is just stagnating, some of it falls on the players (Larkin…) but some of it also is on Yzerman and his spending sprees resulting in mediocre outcomes.

Maybe that is one of those things where hes actually doing what people want but its just back firing or not the right moves idk, but the team is hitting a wall at this point, and a decent chunk of that blame is in his hands.

Though, i dont even know if he will get fired tbh or “Promoted”, its hard to say rn, but at the very least next year is his last likely if they burn out again.

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You laid it out well and I agree. They are in a tough spot - not good enough to make the playoffs and still a few good players away with no real great way to get those players, or they tear it down but what’s really there to tear down?

You trade Larkin, let Kane go, and now all of a sudden who’s replacing their points in the lineup? What could we actually get for Larkin?

I have wanted Larkin gone for a few seasons now, but also have to acknowledge that would potentially create a hole that hurts worse because of how bad the team is overall. I never liked Kane either but again, he was one of our best players the last couple years (not so much this year though).

The young guys haven’t stepped up or aren’t given the chance to, and we have a team full of 3rd and 4th liners, Seider and Debrincat and maybe Raymond. So we’d be right back to pretty much when Yzerman got here. Which even now we kind of are anyway. How far have we really come ( I know we were historically bad in 2020 I think it was, so there’s been some progress but still).

I dunno, just thinking out loud but I feel like they might be in an uncomfortable position where the path they take moving forward is essentially maintaining the status quo and hoping another young guy or two develop. That is pretty bleak

it might be, its not a good situation atm.

Larkin is talented, but if Compher is getting more points on the 5v5 then Larkin… thats a massive issue. Idk what to do with him, i dont think he should have the C going forward though, he has lost it imo, espeically as a leader, team is soft under him and it shows.

Kane and everyone else i keep, but the hole is dug a bit with Gibson and Faulk trades. Red Wings might just have to throw everything to overpay for guys but thats the spot they may be at (We need a legit 2C so badly).

its hard to say, and again, question remains, does Yzerman deserve another year or not… and i dont know at the end if he does.

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Wait, when did we ever get an actual lottery pick in the last 5 years?