Roger McCreary is a Lion

Could Freeling play RT?

He could, I just think he’ll be behind Miller. I also think there are far more ā€œFaulk typesā€ available at 50

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That would be another question we’ll have to answer for sure. Absolutely he could - it’s what we did with Sewell - but would he hit the ground running right away? As a young guy switching positions? Seems to me like the smarter play would be to leave him where he’s comfortable and leave Sewell on the right. Switch them over a full off-season if you must.

What’s the smart gamble exactly? Because you are suggesting Borom being the tackle solution is a smart gamble that’s a ridiculous statement.

You both can keep saying Brad doesn’t paint himself in a corner until you are blue in the face. The fact Borom and Manu are the only tackles on the roster right now, that’s exactly what he did. And if he is of the belief that he doesn’t have to go tackle in round 1 or 2, then he’s an arrogant ass*. Aside from injuries, the offensive line was this teams biggest problem last year. You can’t predict injuries, but you sure as heck can make an effort to fix the Oline. Signing Borom as a fallback plan starter is the absolute bare minimum to fix the biggest issue on the team.

If you are betting on Faulk as a pass rusher I think there is an angle.

Power rushers usually peak mid 20s when there grown man strength is at its zenith. He’s already super strong. Get him some moves to unlock that length and strength and you might have something.

I’m fine with Faulk I just understand that the pass rusher production from the outside is unlikely to be plentiful early in his career.

Again, as we’ve been over, it’s smart because it allows you to take the ā€œJared Verseā€ or ā€œTJ Wattā€ if your evaluation tells you that’s what one of those falling guys is. We hashed this over and over the other day. I feel that those players are in that category, you don’t, which is why you disagree, but as a strategy you even admitted that IF you’re wrong and they are, then it would be good to have them on our team.

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1:) that’s not what I’m saying

2:) that’s your opinion

3.) all you have offered is your vibes. That is it. You simply just double and triple down with harsher language. Where is the actual evidence. Adjectives are not evidence. There is data that suggests that he had a productive ten game stretch at OT. You have provided absolutely ZERO evidence to support your exceptionally stubborn and close minded perspective.

I think you are a good poster but can you please try and make an actual argument outside of just how you FEEL about Brad’s potential solution.

Lastly, there is more to come at Tackle so how about some patience.

Faulk is certainly in play, I won’t deny that. He fits us to a tee (though listening to Ollie and Ledyard call him a 3rd rounder definitely makes me doubt my evaluation lol). I just think the approach of Miller + 2nd round edge is more bang for your buck.

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If you wanted to stay open and take BPA you should’ve signed a tackle that allowed you to do that.

Borom is the issue here for me. He was a solid depth signing. This ā€œit was smart gambleā€ is the issue I have. He was the bare minimum as a fallback plan. And when it comes to the Oline, the minimum is unacceptable.

Scruggs was pretty solid in 2024 for the Texans, doesn’t mean they viewed him as a starter in 2025. And their offensive line was trash. One season of performance only suggests he’s capable of being solid. It shouldn’t be expected.

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Then that is the source of the disagreement. I think they think they have. I think it’s possible, though certainly I’m no expert. But I do believe that is their plan.

And again, this is a fallback option. This is not plan A. It is unlikely to come to pass.

If they think borom can hold down right tackle do they take the raw kid from ASU? From the little I’ve read he’s a beast with great upside but still needs a year or so of development. Do they go edge in the first and target a kid like that in the 2nd?

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That is possible if they love him, for sure. I think they’ll have Miller higher, but that is 100% just my opinion and reading the tea leaves. More experience + captain + football mad (played in meaningless bowl game), Miller has Lions DNA. But I don’t know that Iheanachor doesn’t, I just haven’t heard anything about it. Sometimes you don’t, like with Tyleik last year.

That said he won’t make it to our 2nd rounder. If we want him it’s gotta be at 17 or with a small trade-down. I expect Philly to be very interested, they can sit him to learn behind Lane Johnson for a year. It’s how they do things.

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I’m not sure about Faulk myself. He looked super-lethargic in the drills at the combine. And he didn’t test. And most of the hype seems connected to his size and length.

Increasingly, I’m just a bit wary also of the ā€˜they’ll learn how to rush the passerā€˜ type.

The A&A guys disdain for him doesn’t help either lol. Though that’s one of those where I don’t agree completely.

I don’t understand why people are struggling with this.

Brad’s M.O. has always been FA to establish the floor and allow optionality in the draft. Borom was a wise add within that paradigm given our budget constraints.

If I was confident in him as Plan A then I wouldn’t have brought up Walker or Taylor on a cheap one year deal once their market failed to develop.

But there were actual signs of growth with Borom last year. Sample size concerns, concerns of regression, etc … I get all of that.

But acting like the last ten games of 2025 Borom was the same as the Borom that we saw prior is not backed up by the data.

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Neither am I. He’s slow off the line. He’s going to be a unit in the run game. What ceiling does he hit as a pass rusher is the question.

He’s going to be a 285lb DE as his body fully matures so I’m not overly concerned about some of the stiffness. If that wasn’t present and 2025 production matched 2024 then he probably goes top 5-7.

I’m ambivalent about him at 17. I love the 2024 early breakout. Early breakouts are big for me. I dislike that he is very unlikely to solve our opposite Edge pass rusher production issue early in his career.

We absolutely get this. All we are saying is that Borom being viewed as anything more than OT3 is wild. There’s not a plan that doesn’t include getting an OT in the draft at this point.

The floor being Borom & Manu at OT for next year is a bad plan.

Those guys being our Quality Depth OT3 OT4 is great.

Because it’s the offensive line! I don’t know why you don’t get it…see how that works?

The engine and key to the team. The establishing the floor plan shouldn’t apply to this position group. It’s too important to this teams success. Everyone can see it…that’s why we aren’t threads that have back and forth about our edge group that has Hutch and that’s it…

What’s also not backed up by data as a smart investment is taking a small sample size and expecting those results.

I would love a trade back and then take Max. Move back with say NE and grab him. If he beats out Larry great, but make the focus being a plus RT in 2026.

You arguments are moving further away from being supported by anything at all whatsoever.

I didn’t know that you had another rung to go but job well done.