Sherrone Moore to serve self-imposed two game suspension

They can’t. They have nothing to do with the playoff

NCAA has nothing to do with the playoff. I suppose the CFP Commitee could concoct some post hoc rules to placate the NCAA but not sure why they would

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This is why he took the combative stance he did. It’s not because “oh no they caught me!” It’s because he saw them as frauds. Frauds picking and choosing what they are going to be outraged about, and they just so happened to get outraged at him after he called them out. Go figure.

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I quoted Dan Wetzel not Rich Eisen. Wetzel has been one of the top investigative reporters on this topic.

Your team was more combative over a flag than Warde Manual has been about this whole ordeal. I wish he had a little fight in him, if he did Jim Harbaugh would still be in Ann Arbor.

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The NCAA has the power to ban Michigan from the postseason even if they are not in control of the CFB playoffs. I think they can make them a 5-0 champion too by vacating most of the wins. I don’t think that will happen though. I think the most likely scenario is that Michigan gets nailed with a loss of institutional control. Its not credible that nobody knew what Connor was doing on the coaching staff. They knew it was wrong and they got caught. Then they had people refusing to cooperate and attempting to hide evidence. And they were repeat offenders still on probation from the last violation.

Who cares what Harbaugh’s stance is. Wrongdoers who are caught always justify their behavior.
When a judge listens to the trial and finds you guilty, do you think the judge’s sentence will take into consideration whether you respect the court, respect the judgment, and your contrition for doing what you did? Is that a vendetta? Michigan fans are out of their gourd when they talk about Harbaugh. He’s the real fraud.

I so wish I could muster the passion for college sports that I had 10 years ago. I am almost unplugged from football and basketball. The current situation is ruining the sport. And for me I was always fine with MSU being good. They did not have to be about to win a Natty for me to enjoy it. I truly enjoyed watching kids come up through the program and the team evolving year on year. When you could see a team and players develop. The turning over of players and the feeling that the playing field has tilted so extremely has taken most of the joy away. I am hoping they find a way to make it make more sense…until then I am not sure I care.
It is literally like minor league baseball. And who really follows any sub level of any sport…

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Nevermind GIF

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Rather be minor league baseball than college baseball?

I’m feel you on this. I lost my love for college football back in 2006 when Michigan completely obliterated my Irish in like week 3. I was at that game and from that point on I had to turn off my emotions. But I feel that way about sports in general. It’s not fun anymore it has become work. And with the transformation of college sports, players getting huge NIL deals and now Universities are hiring GMs….that was unheard of back in the old days. The biggest kick I get out of sports these days is talking with you guys….and of course, antagonizing rival fan bases! :smiling_imp:

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It’s not credible to you because to this day you still think “sign stealing” is illegal. So yes they knew Stallions was assigned to look at a team’s signs. Everyone on staff knew this was his job. Did they know his cousin was recording games in advance? It’s very credible they would not know that. Just like I highly doubt Jim Harbaugh had any knowledge of Stallions “dossier” to take over the Michigan program. That wouldn’t have sat well with him.

I think this is a typical conclusion for you though. If the evidence isn’t there to support your claim, just double down on it still has to be true because you feel it is. I mean how could it not? Unfortunately I can’t share that same view with you. I have to see it. Reimbursing Stallions for tickets and travel should be very easy for the NCAA to track, yet I have heard of none of this linked to the staff. Have you?

I will say the same thing I said a few years back, I don’t think Harbaugh properly vetted hires. Schemy I thought was a sentimental hire, and Stallions I feel he was intrigued by the passion to work for free. Do I think he had no institutional control? No, that’s you ignoring the details of the violations and instead just saying the word “violation”

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His resume speaks for itself. He owned Ryan Day, get over it. It’s not the end of the world.

I’m the opposite. I enjoy watching college football. The rivalries, the passions of the fan bases are all enjoyable to me. The change for me is I don’t live or die based on the results like I did when I was younger. If my favorite teams lose, they lose. It doesn’t impact my days. That’s why it’s funny to me to watch some fan bases melt down over losses. I mean come on.

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I get not liking Michigan. That’s normal

Don’t understand people who call Harbaugh ‘mediocre’ or ‘fraud’

Forget what he accomplished at Michigan. He was brilliant in college, then brilliant in the NFL, and after UM he took a 5 win team with cap problems to 11 wins in his first year (+100 point differential, not a fraud)

Here are 8 consecutive win totals for the 49ers. Guess which 4 belong to Harbaugh:

8 - 6 - 13 - 11 - 12 - 8 - 5 - 2 (hint: the bolded ones in the middle)

Jim Harbaugh is a top 5 football coach in the US, arguably top 1. No other coaches in recent memory have been successful in college and NFL like he has

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When you don’t cooperate, and you lie, hide evidence, and allow your employees to destroy evidence, you can’t be taken at face value. That is just common sense. Not to mention it has changed its tune and has admitted to violations if not degree. Regardless, the university is assumed to know what is going on in its own program. So yeah, typical conclusion for you Dan the homer if you want to play that game. “Oh Harbaugh had no idea. He refuses to cooperate out of principle”. You Michigan guys are just sitting in a car together hot boxing your own farts. Michigan is assumed to know what is going on in their own program and the NCAA can apply strict liability to violations. He should have had tighter control. What this looks like is willfully looking the other way.

I haven’t seen much because nobody has seen what the NCAA has or doesn’t have. All the leaks are coming from Michigan’s side. You bring up Wetzel but Wetzel is getting fed by somebody. Does he even have a full copy of the notice of allegation?

Dude, he himself violated NCAA protocol. Then he refused to cooperate or turn over any evidence that could exonerate him. And also lied to the NCAA until they showed him receipts. lol, it doesn’t sound like me who is ignoring details.

Harbaugh is a good coach. He proved that in the NFL. But when it comes to hypocritical frauds like he accuses the NCAA of being, he is definitely a fraud. And lets not forget the man could not beat OSU until all these violations started, which is highly coincidental.

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If Urban didn’t leave do you think Michigan would have won 4 years in a row with the sign-stealing??

Cracking Up Lol GIF

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You have a lot of commentary on this topic for someone who doesn’t seem to know many of the details. Yes, a draft report was leaked by the NCAA last summer. The final version was delivered to Michigan last summer. It has been a year waiting for the NCAA to act.

You mean he refused to hand over his personal cellphone so the NCAA could have full access to her personal pictures and text? Yes, he did refuse. Do you mean he refused to go over thousands of emails with, what was it, a 48 hour deadline? Yes, his attorney advised him that was ridiculous. You don’t have the details you think you do.

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This is the stuff you say that easily allow people to discredit your other takes. You have to let go of the losses dude if people are going to take you serious.

Urban Meyer owned him. There is no denying that. He just plain out coached and out recruited Harbaugh as Harbaugh struggled to assemble the staff to give him the type of football he wanted to play. It’s ok for you to admit that about Day.

I found this to be interesting coming from a moderator on the Michigan board. @Dan01 , @Bols or @frm710 ….can any of you enlighten us rivals on the validity of what the guy is saying?