Free Terrion.
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Not necessarily, itâs a bond hearing, so the prosecution doesnât have to âproveâ its case one way or the other yet, itâs more about him being a flight risk, a danger to the community or others around him, etc⌠and frankly $1M bond for a non-murder case is sky high, so itâs not like theyâre âtaking it easy on himâ. Especially since he didnât have a prior record.
That said they DO have the burden of explaining why theyâre asking for what they ask for, itâs just a different level of burden from the trial. Balancing that line is a fine one, they donât want to give too much of their strategy away to the defense but enough that they get whatever they asked for. Clearly they didnât do that to the judgeâs threshold (and I have no idea why they wouldnât include any evidence that Terrion actually received texts, etcâŚ)
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was the law 40 years ago, now if police and agents think they can hang you for something, theyâll nab you, put you in cuffs, put you in jail, and railroad you to lock you up for money, noteriety, I mean the laws in Michigan and probably elsewhere -state that if some strange fk enters your house, fondle your wife and daughter, steal shit, and you kill them? your the sob thatâs getting hauled away, not that guy- they say âoh you didnât need to use excessive force/didnât need to kill him, but you did and your going to pay.â just like people USED to have the right to keep and Bear arms (guns), but now the law is twisting that and tweaking that right in THEIR favor, messing with you if you have a firearm in your vehicle, or not put away the way THEY see fit, questioning you WHY you have it EVEN if in if in all your life , you never had ANY record, accidents, prior arrests, you donât drive around drinking, you donât run drugs around in your car-nothing, but they will fk with you, trying to make you out to be something your not, but anymore , if they think they can put your butt in jail-they will. Itâs not NEAR as laid back when I was a kid, hell my father and many other people had âGun Racksâ behind the rear seat-could be 4 or 5 guns in it, drive all OVER hell-no problem. those days are gone. there are cool cops that will talk with you like a person, making sure your ok and that, and there are straight asshole police officers, that will just pick on people because they want to-they do not give a chit, and will throw your butt in jail almost for the fun of itâŚnot the same as it wasâŚ
âsupposedlyâ we have the Right to keep and bear arms, yet you go to buy a gun, and they hold you there to do a background check on you , even if you bought all your guns from this shop and they cannot find a damn thing that you ever done wrong ever for the 53 times, years that you purchased a gun from them there. âgotta make sure.â I get it , but until you have been involved in some BS, why treat good hard-working Americans like they are guilty- until they say your ok?
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facts
And this whole incident is why I say humans are way more interesting than movies. If you see a movie about almost anything I can promise humans have done it or done something worseâŚwhich is why I can not watch Hostel ever again
wasnât he charged with many felonies???
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Much of the evidence for the prosecution is testimony from the co conspirators. So not a lot of physical evidence for bond.
I wouldnât read much into it. Like the judge said. He starts running somewhere or does something else TMZ and ESPN will know.
As for the Lions. Nothing yet. Hopefully the NFL puts him on the exempt list to save a roster spot,
No point to cut him. Gotta wait to see if he get convicted. THEN the lions could get some money back
This is odd timing:
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Did not see that coming!
Adding to this: it makes sense, going into training camp, itâs all focus on ball!
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Probably, but unfortunately for TA hes not good enough to warrant the distraction hence why he was cut. If you gonna be a distraction you better be an elite player.
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Was he given Pre-Trial confinement? Thatâs what todayâs court session was about. If he was denied the opportunity to be home before trial, I can understand cutting him. Then his lawyers wouldâve wanted to waive his right to a speedy trial to get him through the season.
How good has he been on the field vs the distraction.
In 2025 he was 97th out of 114 graded CBâs. Both McCreary and Rock Ya=Sin graded higher. Say whatever you want about PFF rankings but letting Arnold go might be the chance that one of the younger guys needs to step up.
Rakestraw has the ability to make himself MILLIONS if he can step up this year.
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I do feel bad for TA but he really brought a lot of this onto himself. He also really â â â â â â this team because he had to act foolish with a bunch of people he didnât need to be hanging around with in the first place. Hope the best for him but what a shame.
The Lions did just that. Gotta say Iâm kinda surprised after how little evidence was presented today in court. Perhaps the Lions know more though. It was gonna be a huge distraction in training camp though so I get it
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This is how I saw a lawyer explain it:
"They donât need to put on their entire case for a simple bond hearing so they arenât going to. The factors to consider at this point are simply whether Arnold is a flight risk and/or danger to the community. Theyâll lay out enough of the allegations to make that point, but thereâs really no reason for them to go beyond that, both for strategic and practical reasons. Itâs rare you see any exhibits entered into the record at a bond hearing, and if you do, itâs going to be something very narrowly tailored to the issues of flight risk/danger to the community.
A hypothetical case at trial will often involve witness testimony, ballistics, camera/surveillance footage, DNA, things like that if they exist. Everything they have must be turned over to the defense soon, but this case just reached the docket. Practically speaking, it doesnât make sense for them to enter all of their evidence for a simple bail hearing, nor would a judge let them even if they wanted to. Itâs not going to turn into a mini-trial. Sometimes theyâre even still investigating the case further, although I donât know if thatâs the case here.
Itâs the right strategy for the defense to assert a lack of evidence at the bond hearing, but just because the state didnât present their entire case in response doesnât mean they have a weak case. It could definitely be a weak case, but thereâs no way that even the defense could really know that right now because the case is fresh and probably havenât even gotten all the discovery disclosures yet."
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Makes sense. And if the Lions really thought he was innocent I doubt they release him. I bet they have been digging into this case behind the scenes too.
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What am I missing here?
The judge said its the 1st quarter, there is reason for probable cause, Terrion is involved, we cut him because a) heâs casting a worldwide negative cloud over the organization and b) heâs not as good as they had hoped, easy out of his contract.
Heâs no longer a Lion, case closed.
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released Terrion? sshhhhocker*
I donât believe anyone alleges that the shocker was used. They would have talked for sure if that was used.
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