The Seahawks also were fortunate to get Russell Wilson on a much cheaper contract than Stafford’s. They were able to build a great defense. Wilson, also is a HOF QB; that doesn’t hurt either.
Does anyone remember or know where Stafford’s rookie contract put him on the QB money list for those years? How that would equate to today’s market?
Its on wikipedia.
Which page?
So you think Wilson has sane success eith Schwartz Caldwell abd Patricia because of how rookie contract
Plus disregard the team success when Wilson hasn’t been on a rookie contract ?
Please don’t turn this into a defend Stafford thread when all I said was that Wilson had an advantage of a rookie contract.
But if you must, I think Wilson would be a HOF QB regardless of where he played. Eight out of 9 seasons he has led his team to double digit wins and the other year he was 9-7. And he probably wouldn’t have had Caldwell and Patricia as head coaches.
If they both play out their contracts (Stafford has 2 years left and Wilson has 3 years left), Stafford will have made $262M over 14 years or 18.7M per year. Wilson will have made $231,340,123 over 12 years or $19.3M per year. Even with 4 years on a very cheap rookie contract ($3M/4yrs or $750K per year), Wilson has made more per year than Stafford.
It was more of critique that first round picks are the difference for successful organizations when imo
I’d trade a number of first round picks as being meaningless for a hall of fame HC or HC/GM type combo.
We’ve seen more first round picks sell lots of tickets on potential vs actually turn a franchise around on their own. That’s why I’m a little bitter towards a rookie salary cap - the players are worth more than their salaries - incoming players didn’t get to vote on those decisions yet are counted on as becoming the next Mahommes and drive league revenue -
Even missing so much time on rookie deal , Stafford easily paid for his contract in the world of the NFL but so did JaMarcus Russel.
Does Lawrence turn Gase into a hall of fame coach ?
My rant wasn’t just meant to defend Stafford
But as Lions fans , we should know better than to count any first round pick even if Billy Sims Made Me a Lions fan
WOW!
I assumed Staff as potentially the highest paid QB by a lot in last 12 years in NFL
I stand corrected
According to this page Sam Bradford has $130M in career earnings. Wow. Thanks Pat Shurmur???
We don’t know that for sure. The opportunity to develop T Law in Jax with picks could change everything
Seeing Dabo in Detroit is something that I’ll confidently say will never happen and agree with Roy
The first 3 years, Wilson made 1M, 526k,662k
Stafford made 3.1 M, 26.9 M, and 9.2 M.
That is quite a difference at the beginning of their careers. The Hawks had a lot more money to spread around at the beginning of his career. And salaries increased quite a bit since that time period.
I haven’t see Parson yet and will make a point to look at his film. An impact Dlineman is hard to pass on generally, but we have the worst LB’s in the NFL. I am not against a top LB, but he has to be special!
The amount of money anyone has made is immaterial and not worth considering.
Lawrence will declare since lions are not going to pick him
It is most certainly material when it is about the salary cap. Just more denseness in here i guess.
For the two hundred jillionth time… Stafford’s contract has never hamstrung the team. It’s middle of the road by vet standards, and even when it was high, that difference wasn’t huge, nor was it crippling. Last year, the Lions left a bunch of cap space unspent.
The Packers, Seahawks, Steelers, Titans, Bucs, Rams, Colts, etc. all seem to be able to assemble competent defenses and running games while their QBs have more of a cap hit than Stafford.
The only denseness here is with people who think that assembling a real-life football team is just like playing daily fantasy.
For the three hundred jillionth time, the entire conversation was about his rookie contract. ![]()
That is not how the salary cap works. The cap only involves his current contract, which is very favorable to the Lions.