The Lamar Jackson saga is weird

meanwhile…. 9 days ago……:face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth::laughing::wink:

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I knew I missed one…well, I do like the quote above regarding a Symphony of Middle Fingers.

Also, CLeveland wayyy overpaid in that deal…kinda like to Watson, but different.

James Franco GIF

No way do I want guarranteed contracts at the Watson amount, foolish for any team

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Did jets get rid of a guy who was being problematic for them ?

If they re write rules for salary cap
Would you be ok with it ?

I just think the system will adapt and rooting against guaranteed contracts when the guarantees will likely go up
Is like rooting to keep hard QB hits in the game. With the money being spent , they’ll likely try to keep QBs healthy.

Cleveland, in other news, also acquired Herbie the Dentist and the Square Wheeled Choo Choo from Santa Claus for an elf to be named later.

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I don’t think you understand the purpose of the salary cap.

Competitive balance. The NFL is designed for competitive balance. Almost every season it seems like we have a worst to first situation.

I pay money to watch the guys on the field, not guys on the sidelines in sweats.

That’s why teams should avoid huge guaranteed salaries. What if the guy gets injured. You payed 10’s of millions of dollars a year for a guy to walk the sidelines in sweats.

You think owners should get less and players more ??

Most owners likely don’t even draw any salary at all from their team. Owners are the job creators. Players are the temporary help. They are handsomely paid to run around playing a violent game. NFL min pay X 3 years (around how long most are in the league) is more money than most Americans will likely make in their lifetimes.

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Something that people miss is that NFL players sign guaranteed deals all the time. The Watson deal wasn’t an aberration because of the guarantee but rather the length and size (TWSS) of the guarantee. Adam Thielen just signed a deal which was effectively a 1 year $14M fully guaranteed deal with two $5M option years. We don’t frame it that way, but if it had been written that way the outcome would be identical.

The first big money guaranteed deal wasn’t Watson’s it was Kirk Cousins’ 3 year $87M fully guaranteed deal in 2018.

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No idea would have to see the rules.
What is it going to cost to go to the games, what will the Ticket cost?

I think Weasel touched on the main point, I have mentioned it previously as well. Football is a violent sport, injuries happen, and will continue to happen. Talking about the 4th and 20 instead of the onside kick as that play is successful less than 10% of the time and the most dangerous play in footbal. (said on Sirius yesterday at some point).

So, I like football as it is and hate some the of the changes they’ve already put in and until you eliminate the violent aspect of the sport I’m not sure how you make it work.

So, answer to your question, probably yes.

Neither of these things are true.

Teams net from $60M - $500M (Cowboys) annually. While that probably isn’t “salary” it certainly goes to the owners through some mechanism. And while it was once true that it was capital from ownership that conceived and grew the league to the behemoth it is now, they are no longer doing anything special nor taking any particular risks through owning a team. The worst owners in the league clear $150M even with the greatest ineptitude. Owners routinely get rewarded for sexual harassment, concealing brain injury data, fielding uncompetitive teams in uncompetitive markets.

While it is certainly the brand of the teams and the brand of the league that maintain these opportunities for players to achieve great status and wealth, neither of those are through any special effort or risk from franchise ownership.

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This post below is supposed to read in jest , poking fun not as a malicious attack.

I bet you’d vote to raise ticket prices in the average fan or hope the lions never sell because the salary cap and competitive league worst to first makes it so team owners stay loyal to their municipalities…

Oh wait
They already raise ticket prices for the average fan

You missed the years when the salary cap really helped the lions to a championship.

Even as a team that hasn’t even won yet
That’s almost completely built through the draft
Is going to have a hard time keeping Amon Jamo Sewell hutch Houston Rodrigo Jonah decker ragnow Goff together in the name of parity

This breaking up the lions best team that hasn’t won yet.

See 2014

Lions fans rooting for the salary cap because in fifty years the lions weren’t the team that used that tool to go from worst to first.

A good owner who wants to win would adapt to guaranteed salaries and you’d watch the same injured guys on the sideline yet find joy in the next Jerry Jacobs underdog.

You are nieve if you think guarranteed salaries like Watsons are good for the game. It won’t be good for the league as a whole

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I doubt it matters either way but the teams that do those deals won’t succeed. The smart teams will simply walk away and make those players someone else’ problem.

Lamar Jackson would love for the Ravens to simply walk away.

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They aren’t giving him the guaranteed deal he seeks so in a sense they are.

Sure he would, however, the real question is what does his next contract look like in guarranteed money vs what he was offered by Baltimore.

How many years of the salary cap did it take for the lions to be a smart successful team ?

I don’t really see why you can’t consider outside of the status quo as providing opportunities to make the game better

But ultimately it’s the smart franchises with owners who want to win … that win.

The system in play never punished WCF for not demanding excellence and competence.

When the salary cap breaks up Brad’s team , let’s hope the lions have win by then. It looks like they’ll be worth a couple billion more than they were in 2019.

I don’t see myself as naive. I also don’t see the owners overhauling the system of labor but the players will fight for gains in the next cba.

Did you notice the first year of player surveys to realize not every franchise is run the same even though they’re in the same business ?

Lions fans also
“The league has an agenda and pushes certain teams and the refs always screw the lions” is another interesting side to the salary cap argument when that demographic overlaps.

I’m the one who pointed you at it. It is a big deal.

It’s a very diminishingly thing. Smart owners will adapt invest or not care because they’ll still sign players.
If guarantee salaries become a thing the business will adapt.

Again, they’ve been a thing ever since signing bonuses became a thing. It isn’t the guarantee that is the problem, it is the $250M guarantee that is the problem.

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