Tigers Off-Season Moves

So, a little more to the Arbitration numbers, not sure if true but it makes sense when you consider Boras and Skubals role in the union.
I have thought for a while that McCosky has taken the Henning role of getting things out there for the team. This may be one of those times.

# McCosky: Facts minus context clouding run-up to Skubal arbitration hearing
Full article at link.

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was $19.8 million.

Accurate. And incomplete. And misrepresentative of the truth.

For context, here’s how this process works:

The Tigers, in negotiations with Skubal’s agent, Scott Boras, offered $19.8 million well ahead of the deadline to file for arbitration. That figure represented the highest yearly increase ($9.8 million) and the highest potential salary ever awarded to a pitcher in the history of the arbitration process.
And it was also just the starting point of the negotiation. At least, that’s what the Tigers thought.

What typically happens is that the Tigers present their offer to the player’s agent as one bookend, and the agent presents a counter bookend offer, generally setting the bookends far apart. Then, through the course of the negotiation, the bookends slide closer to the middle, where an agreement can be reached without taking it to a hearing.

This is the process that played out with the seven other arbitration-eligible players who reached one-year agreements with the Tigers last week — with Casey Mize, Will Vest, Zach McKinstry, Riley Greene, Spencer Torkelson, Kerry Carpenter and Tyler Holton. The Tigers offered a lower bid and their agent offered a higher one.

In each case, the two sides worked their way to the middle and reached a deal.

That didn’t happen with Boras.

The Tigers offered $19.8 million, and Boras, according to the two sources, did not counter. The negotiations ended there.

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… But Boras shut it down. Radio silence. So, at the deadline, they filed at $19 million.

The first time the Tigers saw his $32 million salary bid was when they exchanged numbers late Thursday night, numbers that went straight to the league and formed the parameters of the arbitration case that will be heard in late January or early February.

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…It’s been a pretty one-sided narrative, as dealings between agents and teams tend to be. Most organizations, like the Tigers, have a policy of not discussing negotiations publicly. Harris, from day one, has steadfastly refused to talk, even in general terms, about any ongoing negotiations.
So, information like the $19.8 million offer gets out, backdropped by the $13 million gap between Skubal and the Tigers, and it paints an ugly, albeit incomplete and unfair, picture for the fan base.

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But there might be a higher, broader aim here.
It feels to me like Boras is using Skubal as a weapon to blow up the arbitration system. He’s long been opposed to it, as has the players’ association, and with the collective bargaining agreement expiring after this season, he’s got the perfect player and the perfect case to expose what he perceives as the folly of the arbitration process.

I could be wrong about that. But it would explain his silence and unwillingness to haggle ahead of submitting salary numbers. And it would explain his record ask of $32 million. He’s taking a risk sending that number and a $13 million gap to the arbitration.

But, in doing that, he will force an arbitration panel to make apples-to-oranges comparisons. Like Skubal’s value to that of a position player like Juan Soto. Like pitting a maximum arbitration value for a pitcher against the maximum salary negotiated in free agency.

He’s effectively created a near-no-win situation for the team. And if that helps trigger some eventual tweaking or scrapping of the arbitration system in the next CBA, it will be viewed as a win for him and the players.

Boras isn’t wrong about the arbitration system. It is outdated, inequitable and a general nuisance for both the teams and players. And with Skubal, he’s got an immensely talented, high-profile player, who just happens to be a high-ranking member of the MLB players’ association, to help illuminate his point.

Then, as if to ensure a precedent-setting, high-drama hearing, he’s created the $13 million salary gap between his player and the team.

I fully believe a one-year deal could be reached without arbitration. I also believe Boras has no interest in doing that. He wants this, in my opinion, to be the eventual death-knell of the arbitration system.

As for any potential fracturing between Skubal and the Tigers, it’s not likely to happen.

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And it is fair for the fan base to take these reported numbers and form their opinions, because fans are not required to have a Master’s degree in contract language in order to spout off on a message board about whether or not arbitration is raw dogging a player or an organization.

The problem I have is this morning the guy on the state wide sports morning show who has a perpetual axe to grind with the Tigers brass, felt like the reported numbers (without any of this nuance) in the arbitration battle meant that the front office was either evil or inept.

Fanning the flames because you are a jilted lover is not a responsible position to take if you are given the bully pulpit over the airwaves. Oh well, as long as the sponsors are happy.

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Yea it’s why I’m not a fan of the Freep’s sports guys, most are insufferable Evan Putz.. especially which is understandable because he probably hangs around Gorosh.

Birkett is solid, best of the group there.

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Apparently the Jays have offered Tucker 10 years… Which is pretty crazy IMO.

Jeff Passan on the Blue Jays pursuit of Kyle Tucker:

“The Toronto Blue Jays have really been the only team that’s shown the willingness to go as deep as 10 years, potentially.”

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Tigers ML Report


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3h

It’s International Signing Day in baseball, and the Tigers are bringing in a solid class. But before we celebrate them we wanted to check in on the progress of the last five classes.

Happy 2026 IFA Period!

Starting today, the Detroit Tigers,(and all other 29 MLB Teams) will be able to sign a fresh crop of international talent to join their organization.

The Tigers highest bonuses of this period will be awarded to Venezuelan catcher Manuel Bolívar, Dominican outfielder Randy Santana, and Venezuelan infielder Oscar Tineo. The talent isn’t only in the bonus amounts, of course, but these are your considered “headliners”. All of the players signed today and through this period have worked their entire lives for this opportunity, and this is a life changing day for all of them. One of my favorite parts about being a baseball reporter is having the ability to broadcast these players to the public. Congratulations to all of the 2026 IFA Class!

Are the players considered ‘international’ anymore if they are from Venezuela? /s

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Kenan Thompson Eating GIF by Saturday Night Live

Like gamgam used to say whilst making her famous lesbian thesbian monkey rum butter, “a scott harris who lives by pickled possum tits, is a scott harris who dies by pickled possum tits”…thing is, she didnt even know who scott harris was, shit’s wild man!

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LOL.

I’m actually helping a former tiger, from Venezuela, get a job at the moment. He should latch on to a team at some point this year, little surprised he hasn’t to be honest. May be the ending of his dream, sad.

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OUCH

How can you say that about @stephenboyd57 ?

Thats pretty mean.

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It’s actually in Canadian code.

Our reputation for being polite is a total scam. When we sound like we’re being nice, we’re actually ripping you. And when we rip you we’re actually being nice. Sorry, we got this from the Brits.

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https://x.com/bythewaybro/status/2011858483142906244?s=20

The Detroit Tigers have signed their top 2026 IFA prospect Venezuelan catcher Manuel Bolívar for a $2.3 million bonus.

The #Tigers are signing three prospects to seven-figure bonuses in the 2026 international signing period, per sources: C Manuel Bolivar (VEN): $2.3 million SS Oscar Tieno (VEN): $1.45 million OF Randy Santana (DR): $1.1 million Next highest: OF Douglas Olivo (VEN): $900,000

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video in the link

https://x.com/bythewaybro/status/1902216329936961705?s=20

The Tigers have set their report dates for 2026 spring training:

All pitchers and catchers: Feb. 11

WBC position players: Feb. 12

Non-WBC position players: Feb. 15

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And for any of you that may be coming down for ST let me know. My office is a mile from the stadium and if, IF, I’m in town love grab a beer somewhere.

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Haha I have missed the Tigers game threads and gam gam stories

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Don’t let the cat out of the bag… :wink:
Be Quiet Tim And Eric GIF

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Off topic and Tigers threads are the best part of this website.

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I couldn’t agree more. Non Lions content is the best den

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