I guess he’s just waiting and hoping some team gets desperate and increases an offer.
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So far, holding out for more has backfired on some of these guys.
I probably shouldn’t be like this, but I think it’s funny. If the sport collapsed on itself because only a handful of teams can afford real players, the greedy bastards would deserve it.
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Bregman probably gonna take one of these opt out deals again. Something like 5 years 100 mill but can opt out after year 1 or 2. So if he hits 40 bombs back to free agency. Bellinger, Chapman and Snell all did that last year
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Source on 26m? I spent a good amount of time and research on that number, broken down deep dive wise. I cant believe I am off by 3x.
They made 26m after spilts with MLB and opponents over 7 games, 2 of which were at home?
Thats almost 4m a game, after splits.
Thats pro rated in a regular season to 162 games a revenue of 600 million. If you balance the home away to 81/81 instead of 2/5 in the playoffs, its more, maybe $700 million.
If they are running 600-700m revenue and losing $ at a 175m payroll from the early mid 2010s clubs, where is all the $$?
Well, the answer is they aren’t. 2023 reported season revenue was 360 million. About 2.25m a game.
I have them at 9-10m for 7 playoff games, which have bigger MLB splits. That’s tracking pretty close with 2023 revenue/game.
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Thats just gate revenue.
Then they got ~ $19m from the TV revenue rev sharing.
Either way. Point is the team has money. Especially when you factor in every other source of income they have.
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Source on 26m and 19m please.
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Oh your right i was reading it as tv revenue not ticket sales.
Either way, the tigers MADE money.
Tv viewership was up for the post season.
They make a crap load on food parking restaurants and casinos.
The team has the money to spend.
If they spend money they will make more money.
But hey if they want to keep throwing these injured bandaid players out there with a bunch of young players. And wonder why they always start the season slow. The park will continue to be empty
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They need to spend, agreed.
With the level of farm system they have though I don’t think they want to end up blocking too many spots at this point so I think it makes sense to be spending on places like number two or number three starter and back-end reliever and probably third base or right field. Oh and extending Skub.
They are going to be in the position very quickly to have prospects to trade for long-term additions so that’s the next step I see along with them spending and it’ll happen I think in the same time frame and there will be a giant increase in the talent level on this team. 26 and 27 will look a lot different than 24 and 25, roster/talent wise.
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I still think that Harris has in his back pocket the idea that if Bregman doesn’t meet their demands they can still for a pretty cheap price as far as trade material going back to the Cardinals take a shot at Arenado. Even without his Coors field numbers from his prime he’s going to look a lot like Bregman actually, maybe not quite the on base percentage but pregnant wasn’t really there last year either with that. It would definitely be a shorter time frame to be committed to the guy and the Cardinals would be picking up I’m going to assume a piece of his guaranteed salary, and I believe the Rockies still are paying a piece of that too not much though.
I mean the guy is right there with Mike Schmidt and Adrian Beltre As the greatest Fielding third baseman in history And he’s still probably good for 18 22 home runs And a solid bat But no longer the Clean up Monster that he used to be
Arenado salary- 2025-2027, $21m, $16m, $15m
In addition, The Rox agreed to pay $4m a year each of those 3 years, which are Arenado’s age 34-36 seasons.
So, you are really trading for a 3/$40m contract, and that is without STL paying anything down.
Fangraphs 2025 projection- 152 games ( he has been incredibly durable his entire career) 260/315/425 w 22 HR, 82 rbi in STL.
Bregman last year- 269/315/453 26 and 75 in 145 games in Houston, so his HR count probably falls a bit here.
Essentially, same guy. Half ptice, half duration.
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So what level prospect you trading for him?
Is Arenado from the Michigan area as well?
I’d start at one of Madden, Manning or Montero. We got pitching prospect depth.
If we want them to eat $, then toss a deeper lottery ticket in addition.
Arenado is a LA suburbs kid.
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Good start.
May throw in 2nd Lee or Max Anderson and or SP Montavlo
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The Tigers, Houston Astros, Toronto Blue Jays, Chicago Cubs and Boston Red Sox are in the hunt to sign Bregman, who has a six-year, $156 million offer from the Astros on the table. The Tigers have not signed a free-agent position player to a multi-year contract in nearly three offseasons under president of baseball operations Scott Harris.
Just saw this.
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Pressley to the Cubs. Houston paying 5.5m of the 14m, so does that open up room for Bregman for them? Altuve was the worst fielding 2b in MLB last year, and they need OF badly
Needle tilts to Houston right now. Ugh.
Agree, longer he didn’t sign the more it slanted that way.
KLaw has his top 100 prospects out. After reading them at the paywalled Athletic here is his ranking info and my high and mid comp based on his blurb about the player/skills
#6 Clark- AS CF 20-25hr/40 SB w great D-Johnny Damon/Cesar Cedeno
#11 Jobe- #1Starter 3 + pitches and heat, some wildness- Tops out around Vida Blue/John Smoltz, Aaron Nola if he doent quite pop off. Top Minors pitcher by Klaw.
#23 McGonigle- moves to 2b, super high floor but not much punch Michael Young/Placido Polanco
#48 Thayron Liranzo Huge, cannon, special bat, maybe not a great catcher. Switchy. VMart comp is easy. Tyler Stephenson mid case
#59- Josue Bricen̈o- C/1b- huge. Mashes. Good eye. Gonna be 1b. Carlos Delgado peakity peak down to John Mayberry
#70-Bryce Rainer-SS-Top Ranked HS player hy Klaw. 20 hr bat w + defense. Hit tool average. Comped often to Corey Seager. Gonna take their word for it.
#93 Jaden Hamm-SP-Top end curve, not sure about fastball being enough. #3 starter or reliever. Jose Berrios if it all clicks or Chris Stratton/Jesse Chavez type long career middle guy.
Tigers had the most in top 100, and it doesnt count Jung due to Klaw’s methodology for MLB at bats but Jung would still be a rookie under MLB eyes and most evaluators.
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Per one of the Detroit papers the Tiger’s made a trade offer to Houston for Pressley who refused to waive his no trade clause to accept the deal.
