You had me at licking toads with @BigNatty.
Boyd brings the Canadian beershine, Natty brings the toads, I’ll grab a few grannies, and we will meet up in Chatham.
We will have the time of our life.
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This right here. Both of them are good QB’s, but Stafford will go for the TD over the first down.
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Please bring a couple ladies under 50. Lol I have standards
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Goff’s two-minute drill is one of the best around. I don’t have the stats, but he’s surgical. Stafford can run and gun with little time left.
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Jared wins?
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Alot better blood pressure readings for fans with goff at qb than stafford.
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The answer is yes to all of them… And no one would be able to convince you otherwise… Even if it didn’t happen, perception is reality my friend 
if it happened in your mind, didn’t it really happen?
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The question was about 2nd-year Stafford. McVay would not have had a man crush on young Stafford, who wasn’t nearly the QB he would become.
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Imagine what Matt could-have done with Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn-whew
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With Mcvays ego I’m sure he would have been all about Stafford even then. I mean Stafford threw for 41tds and over 5000 yards in his 3rd season. And who’s to say Matt wouldn’t have been better with a guy like Mcvay working with him? But that’s just what I believe anyways.
Aaron Glenn??
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I think their SB victory was possible due to a culmination of experiences under a myriad of coaches. I don’t think McVay as the sole influence from year 1, 2 or whatever on would have been enough to build a championship-caliber QB out of Stafford. I think it was experiences prior to meeting McVay that had. He would have been in love with Stafford’s talents the same as Linehan/Schwartz were, but I don’t think McVay is enough of a coach to build into Stafford a championship-caliber vision.
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Wasnt mcvay in middle school when stafford was in his 2nd yr? Heck stafford was barely out of his teens himself.
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I see Mcvay completely different as a coach I guess than you do. I think he’s clearly one of the best offensive minds in the game and one of the top 3 head coaches in the game. Again just my opinion.
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He turned Wolford into a champion as well - his “guy” for the playoffs.
Yeah, I lost respect for McVay quickly …
…so much so I’m a diehard Lions fan now.
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Yea I can’t stand Mcvay but just hard to argue with his results imo. He did Goff wrong but it’s also the best thing that ever happened to Goff and the Lions. And the rams got a SB as well. Really was a win for everyone.
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I am unable to see a coach as great if he tries to break a player (every day at practice and behind the scenes). Goff succeeded because he is mentally tough. Most would have been destroyed. Make no misktake, McVay’s intention was to destroy him.
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I’m going to leave my opinion and walk away because I’m not debating this for the 3,000th time.
Stafford is a guy that can elevate a less than perfect team with his arm talent and mental processing. He’s getting older now, but he has always been the sort of QB you want in a two minute offense. He weakness has always been touch on the football and occassionally decision making (not processing).
Goff is a guy that can elevate your team with precision passing and timely delivery when all the other pieces are in place. He is in his prime and improving still. When at his best his strength is throwing catchable balls that can be RACed by the WR especially within a play action offense. His weakness is the ability to make something happen whent the play breaks down and early on at least a step too slow processing (I think he has improved some). But when he is comfortable in the pocket, he is as good as any QB in the league.
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Goff stereotype: extremely consistent throughout each game, he takes what the defense gives and delivers catchable balls. Basically what we’d derisively call a game manager but in reality that’s what P Manning, Brees and Brady made HOF careers out of.
Stafford stereotype: very inconsistent throughout each game, often starts with 7 or 8 incompletions in his first 10 attempts which puts the team in a hole, but has a greater risk appetite which can result in extraordinary comebacks but also disaster. Essentially a gunslinger who lives and dies by the sword, he can reach higher heights than Goff but his inconsistency means that he needs to do that at the end of games whereas Goff’s consistency means that we don’t find ourselves in that situation as often.
In our current offense, which is all about ball control and staying ahead on the scoreboard, Goff is a better fit.
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Except for the “run” part.
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