It’s about role.
Ahh, didn’t see that article. I trust the horse’s mouth more than mine. If that’s the case I wouldn’t want him as a SAM, that isn’t his game. He can’t drop in Coverage, he’s more comparable to Mike Danna the DE for the Chiefs than anything
That’s my main concern with him too. He wasn’t asked to do a lot of the LB-y things we ask out of a SAM, and when he was it was… well, fine. It doesn’t mean he CAN’T do those things, obviously, just that he hasn’t.
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What ever that means there still totally diferant players. Not in the same vicinity. There ability to make plays is largely diferant.
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Right but what @CuriousHusker is saying is we’d be drafting JTT to play the Paschal role. Set the edge, rush on passing downs, sometimes from inside, etc… A nascar type. We’d ask the same thing of Darius Robinson, Jared Ivey, Stewart, etc… and none of those guys are comps either. He’s not saying they’re the same guy, just that we’d use them in a similar fashion.
Why would we put a square peg into a round hole though? JTT isnt a guy that should rush from inside, where as Paschal actually should because he can win inside and can’t win outside
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Because we’ll want his juice on obvious passing downs. Roll Barnes up to edge and bring more attackers inside. It’s the way we’ve been doing things since Dan has been here, as much as we can.
Not sure we are watching the same guy. I haven’t seen him winning much anywhere. If there is one thing he does well is set an edge as a DE against the run
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I’m good with what husker said. “With JTT you’re in all likelihood getting one of the better versions of Josh Paschal in the universe of possible Paschal outcomes coming out of school.”
I’m not totally convinced it will translate to the NFL game…
but JTT seemed to have really good timing and long arms to knock down a lot of passes. He had 10 of them in his OSU career.
That would be a welcomed skill if he was able to rush inside and get some batted passes along with pocket pressure.
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You’re probably right Bubba, I’m going back to his college tape. Where he could win inside, always pictured that to be his 3rd down role for us
I think JTT’s best football is still in front of him
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Yeah … torn petellar tendon is as bad as an achelles. Maybe worse.
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Right. That’s why I’ve dropped him into the 3rd personally. Without the ability to dig into his medicals, I just don’t feel safe going that route.
we’re getting caught up in the “position game” I get it, but that’s not how they draft-per our front office earlier this offseason.
Paschal has strength and pad-level. He absolutely can play 5, 4i, and 3. When he gets his chance, you can see his punch, leverage and power get underneath Guards and drive them back. The problem is he is almost exclusively in 2-gap read and react roles from snap to snap. He’s good at moving the sled, but that’s about it. No speed, no bend. He is sometimes out at a 7t spot playing DE, but you’re not going to get much production from there except for run-stopping and doing is part to set the edge.
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agreed… Jimmy Graham and Morris Claiborne are considered “success” stories coming back from torn patellar tendons.
Graham had 900+ yards in the year he came back, then fell off and looked very slow.
Claiborne did have 2 decent years with the Jets after his injury.
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Do want but too high.
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This is how I interpreted your comment.
You and my wife would get along oh so well.
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Are we talking about the same JTT? I’m talking about J.T. Tuimoloau who I find to be on the complete opposite end of the spectrum in terms of style of edge compared to Jokwara or Charles.
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