Who thinks we should wipe the whole thing?

The hole we are in is full of quicksand. should their be a Detroit Lions?
we are looking at years of rebuild & re strengthen before this team does a damn thing.

Ownership has done everything halfassed and backwards for years and were spinning their gears racking up losing seasons and going nowhere.

5 picks won’t do anything unless you score on every pick. but we have contracts to pay or players to get rid of and very little income to replace those we lose.

I do

well comming from you that means something. always respected you as a poster. yeah I don’t think we are turning it around fast at all, I’m thinking three seasons as a start-3 drafts…free agency …offseasons worth of build.

We never had full wipe before . Mayhew remained from Millen . Caldwell remained from mayhew . Cooter remained. Now wood is remained . Full clean up will change the whole culture , that should start with removing woods if possible too

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Quinn gone
Patricia gone
Bevell gone
Undlin gone
Coombs gone
Stafford gone? maybe, not likely
Wood gone? nope
Sheila gone? only in death

I think I am going to give Sheila some time and see what she does. Canned GM and coach after seeing another uncompetitive season. Hired Chris Spielman to assist Ron Woods who is in over his head in this arena. Those moves I like.

Truthfully, I think that isn’t a bad first year for a new owner. Now we watch the hiring process and see what happens next. My only thought is that she deserves a chance to succeed or fail on her decisions and should be looked at as a new owner. God bless her.

As for blowing it up or reloading, the new GM needs to be here for that decision. I don’t see the talent here to compete. but maybe they see something else.

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There’s four or five useful pieces on offense; three or four on defense.

Beyond that, sure, obliterate it.

In some cases that will mean immediate switch-outs by the new regime. In other cases, it means they will replace those players when they are able to.

Keep the Pro Bowl guys on offense/special teams and a couple others.

Nearly the entire defense needs replacing.

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I’m never a fan of wiping out an entire team.

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I’m fine with taking the franchise out to the middle of a field and putting a bullet in it’s head…Absolutely fine with it

Bidet it away

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Yup. If there’s an “us vs them” culture that we have to flush, I want everyone in the building turned over, front office included.

I don’t care if an O’Brien or a Newmark goes on to build a dynasty similar to Colbert, I don’t want them here. There is nothing to be covered here. Nothing worth hanging onto. We are an expansion team less they ability to draft off of other team’s rosters.

I think we can all agree that an incomplete wipe is a bad thing.

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I am very much for blowing the whole thing up outside of a few players. You got to lose to know how to win.

You must not have gotten the Aerosmith reference. Seriously though, retooling will give us nothing in the long run. Losing now is necessary to set ourselves up for future success.

You can’t escape the work that needs to be done. And doing it incompletely, or delaying it, only means more discomfort, longer. And possibly a more difficult job later.

I’d be all for that.
I think we have some Nice pieces on O, though.
No sense in causing ourselves extra pain to endure.

I was just thinking this. “What is going through Okudah’s head, right now.” Going from OSU to this. Talk about messing up his reality.

He who asks questions while learning, only learns to ask questions.