… nobody else is coming at me. They seem to handle my questions and conversation fine or they ignore me, which is also fine
One thing is for sure, many players have spoken out about how they prefer playing on grass. Now is it the field turf causing all the injuries? No but it’s pretty clear players prefer playing on grass. I hated playing on turf myself, although it’s apparently way better today than it was 20 years ago.
I know a lot of people might disagree, but I hate domes. I think football was meant to be played outside in the elements. Wind, rain, snow, sun, and on grass.
didn’t we just install this turf of rubber tire material last year?
During the off-season, yes.
The problems have been mentioned before. Grow lights and watering system with proper draining would be a nightmare to implant into an existing building, especially one in FFs location. I think Shiela did the best she could with the new turf but really what else is there to do? She shelled out big bucks for the turf over the winter/spring.
As an example, I don’t think ARSB would have come out any better on real grass last Sunday.
All of their outdoor practice fields are grass, and people still suffer them. The world came to a stop in Detroit when CJ might have been hurt in practice. Real grass.
But I don’t know shit about it so who knows?
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There is an engineer’s saying:
Strong
Light
Cheap
Pick Two.
This almost applies here. You spend enough money and we can make it happen.
They would need many years of high level turf studies with no less than a masters degree before they are allowed to have an opinion. I didn’t make the rules, @Billysimsmademedo did. Sorry.
There was a former OL player who played in Tampa and Vegas, Winn??, he cohosts a show on Sirius on Friday evenings. Last week they discussed Turf vs Grass and he does prefer grass then added a few additional comments specifically to grass fields.
Rain can bring challenges on grass field that they don’t have on turf.
They can be rough if there was a college game or concert at the stadium the previous day,
tougher to get good footing etc. Add in rain to the scenario night of or day of game, and
footing becomes worse.
Overall he prefers grass but in many markets it just isn’t possible.
On a side note I actually sell artificial turf in the construction industry along with faux vegetation walls(and living walls/roofs). Say that as the drainage thing makes sense to me with regards to artificial turf. We do a fair amount of turf for mixed used developments and rooftops where we design and direct water flow where we want it to go.
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We should bottle sunlight in used Aquafina bottles and pour it out into the dome every night. Maybe we can use the sunlight-rich Aquafina bottles instead of tires.
I’ve learned in this thread there’s differing opinions on the feasibility of it even amongst our experts.
I’d value players input as the ones who have to play on it although I also think they may not all agree. Some may like a turf field.
Where did the experts differ in opinion?
Whether its needed or not I don’t think it would be quite as expensive to do as some people think it would.
I work in the commercial cannabis industry as a consultant and they now have extremely high efficiency LED grow lights that don’t need to be replaced but every 10 years or so and can be had for 4 to $600 per unit in a bulk purchase scenario.
For cannabis growth you would want one of these lights to light up every 4x4 area for maximum flower yield but you wouldn’t need it to be nearly as intense for basic vegetative turf grass growth.
I think the main reason that they don’t want to do something like this is because it would definitely limit their ability to host other event types at Ford Field.
Reading the thread
There’s a number of replies. I’m not doing your research for you.
I can’t even tell if you really want to talk with me. If sincere leave a 
Cynodon, aka Turfguy. Resident expert. He’s been around a long time, so most folks know him.
By the way, the St Brown brothers discussed turf vs grass last year on the 33rd team. Like many players, they’d prefer a dome for a full season over playing in the elements. Even if turf introduces certain injury risks that grass doesn’t, a dry 72 degree atmosphere eliminates a number of risks, too.
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Sure grass would be nice but I don’t see it happening. They just upgraded to a better surface which I’m sure is a lot better for the players. Time will tell how it works out. Can you imagine them playing on Astro turf now?
If they all go to grass, I wonder if I could get some really cheap field turf? No more lawn work, oh yeah! Bermuda grass pretty much sucks anyway.
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Thanks
I saw millsguy offered some insight and others offered opinions.
That’s an interesting point. For WRs who get paid on catches
A controlled environment in the air is beneficial.
As an owner , if you really wanted to win and you felt grass did reduce injuries ( to your valued assets ), how much would it be worth to spend … just in case ? Let’s say Aaron Rodgers injury wouldn’t have happened on grass …I don’t know how much that is worth
I’m not sure there’s a solution but if money wasn’t an obstacle, I’m
Not sure there isn’t.
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If money wasn’t an issue every team could build their own little oasis for their teams alone.
But investment, revenue, roads, spectators, municipalities and real estate are issues that have to be contended with.
Of course, if money really were no issue…
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Daniel Snyder is walking away with enough money to build 6 different billion dollar stadiums but never won a Super Bowl and is thought of as one of worst owners in sports.
Some owners decided it’s worth having grass.
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