There’s plenty of examples of it. Charlie Batch in Pit is a popular example. Batch brought some mobility that Ben didn’t have. Pit credited this to helped get the defense ready for games with mobile QB’s.
This is the growing trend in the NFL. Especially in the age of Covid. Maybe these two articles will help you.
This I agree with but there’s far more value in keeping him at the low savings in 2021.
2022 there’s a 5 mil cap savings if we move on. I’d move on in 2022 and find someone younger and better for less money.
BQ gave him a big contract and he’s not worth it but there’s no value in cutting him this year.
Agree. Keep him for 2021, cut bait in 2022.
Okay, then by that argument, we should still cut Chase (shiv is optional) and grab a guy like Ian Book with a 4th or 5th. Can be our version of Taysom Hill.
I understand the “idea” we only save 2.3 million by cutting him this year, but as previously mentioned that’s 2.3 million minus replacement costs that can be rolled over for the next two years and also saves 0.75 million in dead money against next years cap to shed a guy who failed to perform his job on the field. I’ll bet for a million dollars, we can find a couple of pretty savvy minds that can sit in the classroom with Goff, Blough, and a rookie.
Did you read the articles?
If you think Blough is never going to mount to anything then I’d consider a mid round QBto groom in place of Blough.
Daniels your paying a lot of money for… so you might as well get some value out of it. There’s little savings in cutting him. The two articles I shared showed that there is value in having a veteran backup. It’s the current trend especially with Covid.
Sorry man, I did an add on edit to clarify my point. Not fair to you while you were responding to my unedited version. I type slow, I’m old, 
Let’s say we’re ready to go free agent shopping in a couple years to start putting the finishing touches on the rebuild. Are we better off with a couple more million to spend, or a year of Chase Daniel in a meaningless rebuild year?
I’ll spell it out one more time.
We’re a young team that needs a lot of growing. Especially on defense.
Having a veteran backup lead your second string offense in practice vs your starting defense brings a lot of growth advantages.
Having a veteran backup who can read film helps your starting QB. You always saw chase and Matt going over game film on the sidelines. The veteran brings what he’s seeing to the starter when the offense is off the field. They help in the film room all week long too.
So if your cutting chase the plan has to be one of the following.
Option 1 leaves you in a bad spot in a Covid year. Ask Denver. You also miss out on the advantages laid out above.
Option 2 means your probably saving nothing to maybe 1.5 mil due to the cost to replace.
With the Covid rules and new CBA teams are carrying 3 QB’s again.
Jordan Ta’amu is light years better as the QB working our D because he’s mobile and is going to show them WAY more than Chase ever would in a league that is plugging in mobile QB’s right and left. And correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the QB coaches job to work with, wait for it, the QB when looking at film, etc? If Chase was all that he would have started somewhere by now, he isn’t and he hasn’t. I can see where you’re going with the argument, but this ain’t the right guy to try and make it with.
If that veteran sucks your only giving your defense a false sense of security 
. It should be someone that challenges them on close to a pro level, right? There’s nothing anyone saw out of him that suggests he will be able to accomplish what you’re suggesting on a competent or challenging level.
I’ll give you an option 3 for replacement. Sign Ta’amu, draft a rookie, and let Blough and Ta’amu battle it out. This leaves
#1 Goff
#2 Rookie on a rookie contract
#3 Winner winner chicken dinner between Blough and Ta’amu, again overall net savings, and we can switch up #2 and #3. No ones going to care.
Hi Free, good to see you again !!
There’s plenty of examples of it. Charlie Batch in Pit is a popular example. Batch brought some mobility that Ben didn’t have. Pit credited this to helped get the defense ready for games with mobile QB’s.
This is the growing trend in the NFL. Especially in the age of Covid. Maybe these two articles will help you.
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No.
That does not help convince me at all. Not even a little bit.
Jameis went to N.O. for only $1.1 million… specifically to learn from Sean Payton and Brees.
Then he didn’t even get the starts when Brees was injured this year.
He threw 12 passes all year, even though Brees missed 4 &1/2 games.
They played the young guy over the “veteran” back-up.
Flacco? That really does not help the case at all.
Flacco made only $1.5 mill with Jets in 2020.
Flacco went on record saying it was NOT HIS JOB to mentor a younger QB in Denver.
“As far as a time constraint and all of that stuff, I’m not worried about developing guys or any of that,” Flacco said. “That is what it is. I hope he does it well. I don’t look at that as my job. My job is to go win football games for this football team.”
Dalton is the closest thing to a “win” on this topic.
Yet… Dalton went 6-5 this year… facing 1 team with a winning record in 11 games.
And… Dalton signed a $3 mill 1 yr deal because he wanted to be home in Dallas on a team that had enough talent to make it to the playoffs.
Chase is gonna count $5.3 million against the cap this year, for a team with zero playoff hopes.
Foles got 7 starts on a team with decent talent.
He went 2-5 in those starts with a 80.8 QBR on the season, and lost the job back to Trubisky.
And the Bears have to pay his guaranteed money of $6.67 mill in 2020 and also 2021 before he can come off their books.
I could care less if there are some teams that blow their cap space on back-up QBs.
This is especially wasteful for teams to spend significant money when they are not built to compete right now.
There were only 3 playoff teams that back-up QBs with cap numbers >$3million in 2020.
All 3 of them had unusual circumstances that caused this scenario.
The Colts had paid Brissett as a starter in 2019, but he lost the starting job to Rivers.
The Bears brought Foles in to challenge Trubisky for the starting job hoping for a quick fix.
And the Saints gave Taysom Hill a new deal in 2020 to keep him as a RFA, thinking he might be the heir to Brees as starter. They only signed Winston b/c he couldn’t get a starting job and willingly took a small deal to learn and position himself with Payton/Saints.
The Packers got a lot of attention for spending a 1st round pick on Jordan Love.
However, they have a 37 year old QB… with injuries in recent years… on a roster capable of winning a Super Bowl. Love has the physical talent to win games if Rodgers gets hurt again.
Love has the physical ability to help the team in future years when Rodgers is gone.
They made an investment that might help now, and might help in the future.
Chase Daniel does not have that talent. Never had. Never will.
But Love will NOT have a cap number >$4 million in his first 4 years!
Almost every single quality NFL team with an established starting QB is paying their backup QB modestly and maximizing money spent on other positions.
I say cut Daniels, save the money to use elsewhere. We don’t need to pay 4-5 million for a QB coach.
And it’s not like we’re going to be winning any games with Daniels under center anyways.
You two do realize he’s under contract with KC right? He’s not available.
We also had him on our team last year and he couldn’t even beat out Blough and couldn’t even stick on our PS. …We let KC have him back… you all are talking about a kid that was almost out of the league a year ago… Chase has been in the league a very long time. I think you two are underselling what he is.
It’s pretty hard to have a serious conversation with people who do not realize these facts and the fact that by cutting Chase and signing Ta’amu (if you could) that the cap saving is practically a wash. You maybe save a million bucks. It makes zero sense.
So if you cut Chase your cap savings is 2.3 mil in 2021.
You still need a back up - do you go out and sign someone like Jeff Driskol who made 2.5 mil last year? For a cap loss of .2 mil?
Or do you or do you replace him with a rookie for about 1 mil?
For me the mil savings isn’t enough to get rid of a veteran backup who can help to mold our defense. 2022 the cap savings is 5 mil and at that price I’d move on. But it doesn’t make sense in 2021.
Almost every NFL team is going to carry 3 QB’s due to Covid.
He’s on a futures contract and we could easily put him on our roster. We let KC take him back when Stafford was still here and BTW, he’s simply an example of how easy it would be to find someone who is cheaper and would be a better option to do the things you said we needed a backup for, unless you’re going to tell me that Chase is better at giving our D a moving target. Man, you have talked down to some people on this post with comments like, “I’ll spell it out one more time.” Is that some kind double speak for, “You’re too dumb to get it?” What’s hard is to have a conversation with someone who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. You just gave examples of how easy and cheap QB’s have been found in the past and were using it as an example for why we needed to keep Chase. Was THAT a serious conversation? Your excuses for keeping him are pathetic, we need to keep him because he is better at scouting for the D and looking at opposing D’s? If we don’t save a DIME but have a better option it’s worth it, it’s about making the team better and nothing you have said supports how that would happen by keeping him. And yes, I’d go with Jordan Ta’amu right now because he has ceiling and Daniels has never shown why he should be on any roster after how many seasons?
What young guy are you talking about? Taysom Hill is 30 years old. 
good point… should have said “less experienced” guy! 
They moved him to their active roster before the end of the season. He’s a RFA for them until they cut him or try sliding him on the PS.