The entire 1st half Goff had time to throw and I’m assuming no one was open because it was check down city.
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Why though?
It’s been YEARS since I’ve seen the Lions operate in check down city mode.
What’s concerning is a decent amount of preseason offensive play was also check down city mode.
It doesn’t work and shouldn’t happen with the talent level we have on offense.
With all the talk of Goff and him getting on the same page, and the vets who ran Ben’s offense… You don’t think they’d say something about the “pedestrian” play designs? I find that hard to believe
Did we throw Jamo a single pass further than 5 yards in the air? The oline struggled but Goff did have time to throw several times early in the the game. and we just checked down
Gibbs had 10 catches for 30 yards. That’s hard to average that low per catch. another thing I noticed was Gibbs kept slipping like he was wearing the wrong shoes or something.
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There were receivers open, Laporta was open a bunch… I think Goff’s placement today was below average
Once it got late there should have some “■■■■ it Jamo or Tessla down there” passes
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You typically only run check down city if the coaching staff doesn’t trust the QB, right?
Most of the times when I’ve seen an offense run like that is with a backup QB or a rookie.
Morton and Goff don’t seem to be on the same page.
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So you think an NFL QB and his players are going to take over the OC–while coached by Dan Campbell? That strikes you as even a remote possibility?
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Or the WR’s just aren’t open. I’m not sure without seeing the endzone film views. TV angle is so hard to tell
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Goff was checking down trying to save the fight for another day. He would have been out for the season if he took the time to look for routes deeper than 10 yards. Pathetic effort by the oline.
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Thank you.
That’s what I wanted to know.
If the check downs / lack of open receivers was an O-line problem or an OC problem.
Are you guys misremembering us as a high powered offense through the first three weeks of 2025?
Let it breathe. We couldn’t run the ball and we could hold up inside. If Hank can whip the OL into shape Morton will do just fine.
Full speed ahead on getting the OL to mesh. Dan is an honest dude and he told us on day 1 of camp that is what he was most watching. We knew a rough IOL early was a possibility.
But Tate and Christian are likely to get so much better as the season progresses. We’ll see on GG.
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The Jets offense looked pretty damn good.
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Week 1 2024:
DET PASSING***
| PLAYER | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | AVG | TD | INT | SACKS | RATING |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
 J. GOFF |
18 | 28 | 217 | 64.29 | 7.75 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 84.97 |
| TEAM | 18 | 28 | 217 | 64.29 | 7.75 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 84.97 |
DET RUSHING
| PLAYER | ATT | YDS | TD | AVG | LONG | FUM | 20+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
 D. MONTGOMERY |
17 | 91 | 1 | 5.4 | 21 | 0 | 0 |
 J. GIBBS |
11 | 40 | 1 | 3.64 | 8 | 0 | 0 |
 J. WILLIAMS |
1 | 13 | 0 | 13 | 13 | 0 | 0 |
 K. RAYMOND |
1 | 12 | 0 | 12 | 12 | 0 | 0 |
| J. GOFF |
1 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 0 |
| TEAM | 31 | 163 | 2 | 41.04 | 61 | 0 | 0 |
DET RECEIVING
| PLAYER | REC | YDS | TD | TGTS | LONG | YAC |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| J. WILLIAMS |
5 | 121 | 1 | 9 | 52 | 63 |
 S. LAPORTA |
4 | 45 | 0 | 5 | 18 | 22 |
| J. GIBBS |
4 | 34 | 0 | 6 | 14 | 54 |
 A. ST. BROWN |
3 | 13 | 0 | 6 | 5 | 7 |
| D. MONTGOMERY |
1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 |
 B. WRIGHT |
1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
| TEAM | 18 | 217 | 1 | 28 | 93 | 148 |
Lions lost an All-Pro Center that made the protection calls.
They also lost a pro-bowl caliber ORG.
They have a new play caller.
And… Parsons didn’t actually need an epidural to play.
It was discussed pregame. He was fine.
Lions may have won 3 straight in Lambeau.. but none of them were easy. However… it was guaranteed that they wanted to get some revenge.
This was never going to be an easy game.
I actually expected to lose this game for all of those reasons.
I just didn’t expect the entire O-line to struggle so badly.
That said… Van Ness and Devonte Wyatt looked better today than I remember seeing them in the past… so that is concerning.
Hell… I almost forgot they even had Wyatt.
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So you are misremembering then. We scored 17 points in the first 59 minutes and 43 seconds of that game. And that was indoors against an incredibly young, no name (at the time) defense with a DC coaching his first game.
Well, you said athleticism. I don’t think there’s an NFL person on the planet that would say Brady or Manning are athletic compared to other NFL players. Now, if you want to say pocket awareness, yeah, those two are a couple of the all time greats. But I think you are selling Goff amazingly short based on one shitty game with subpar, not even average, blocking.
I’m going to be honest and say that the only thing I remember from that game was David Montgomery essentially carrying the offense on his back to win the game.
We didn’t get that type of performance from ANYONE on offense today.
In overtime. I think he must of had close to 50 yards rushing that overtime.
I really think Morton was running most of the same stuff. The problem was that:
A - we didn’t have a run game to control down and distance and get us into those 2nd and short/3rd and very short play action setup where we roast people.
B- when we lost game script and had to go into a straight drop back setting we couldn’t protect on the interior. Goff isn’t going to succeed much in pure drop back settings where he is getting harassed from the interior.
What we saw was an offense with an IOL issue and a timing offense without refined timing yet.
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Manning - Yes
Brady - No
Goff is more likely to fumble than Manning though. Manning would typically either throw the ball into the ground or just surrender himself, but he didn’t fumble like Goff does.
There was nothing elusive about Manning, ever.