Jamo update

Or, 2 black dudes out after midnight getting pulled over by the cops, knowing how people get profiled, it might be wise to let the cops know you are not a thug drug runner but a good person who has a great job with the Lions.

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I have it on good authority from certain people that racism doesnā€™t exist anymore.

Not really. Doesnā€™t apply when inside a vehicle. You have to unload and secure while in a vehicle. When you get out, you can retrieve, load and strap on the gun.

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This is correctā€¦ Canā€™t believe how much misinformation people are spewing in this thread. Jamo shouldā€™ve stuck to his story, itā€™s his brotherā€™s gun, then tell them they just hadnā€™t filed the transfer papers yet. His brother has a CPL and was aware of the gun and itā€™s location by all accounts, transporting it under his own CPL is legal.

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Thatā€™s not true.I deal with the legal aspect of CPLā€™s daily. Thereā€™s a lot that not being said. DON"T believe anything a journalist says about guns. They donā€™t know which end the bullet comes out.

Then thereā€™s this: " possession of a large capacity feeding device and possession of ammunition without a firearm identification card ."

Neither of these are mentioned in MI law.

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Glad someone else knows what theyā€™re talking about.

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I worked as the lead instructor in a gun shop for years until I went into business for myself. I work hand in hand with attorneyā€™s and police while going through to legal aspect of carrying a concealed weapon to students.

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Thatā€™s confusing. Why would a person with a CPL need another persons CPL to cover their gun? Iā€™m probably not understanding the context of the statement.

I canā€™t tell you how many people I had arrested for Concealed Carry before Kentucky changed the laws and i wouldnā€™t have arrested Jamo. If Jamo was driving and in control of the vehicle I might have acted differentlyā€¦.but the fact you had a person with a CPL in the vehicle and they advised the officers of the weapons goes a long ways with me.

Police officers have a lot of discretion on most charges and I think these officers did the right thing. Again, I worked the commonwealth of Kentucky and the only charges that I remember ā€œyou shall arrestā€ were domestic violence statutes. And good luck prosecuting this case when it sounds like the officer had no intention of charging Jamo and only is now because of media or political pressure.

Honestly this is one time being famous doesnā€™t help you. If this was anyone else it would have been done with that night. Just my 2 cents.

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To be fair so are Branch, Gibbs, Jayden Daniels, Laporta, Ra, Will Anderson etc.

To say the multiple suspensions and other indiscretions are no biggie based on ā€œyouthā€ ā€¦ā€¦then why donā€™t most young players get suspended?

What if this weapons thing has teeth? What if we lose another 4-6 games from him this year? So we end up with under 1,000 yards receiving in 3 yearsā€¦ and potentially 3 suspensions?

Does it make posters feel better to proclaim itā€™s a ā€œnothing burger?ā€

What if it isnā€™t? If it was nothing it would have been done and over on October 8th

Iā€™m sorry- I have a CPL and many other firearms that are properly registered, stored and appropriately situated with documentation when on my person or in my car. If you are too ā€œyoungā€ or ā€œimmatureā€ to follow the laws- maybe carrying guns is a bad idea for 23 year old millionaires that have kids buying their jerseys?

I appreciate the context here. Thank you!

Iā€™m trying to figure out thoughā€¦. My brother is driving and my brotherā€™s gun is sitting on the backseat- he has a license.

Iā€™m in the passenger seat and ā€œmy gun register to meā€ is under my seat, but I donā€™t have any type of license.

As a person with a CPL, and as a person closely related to a local instructor of CPL classes the last 2 yearsā€¦. Iā€™m not understanding how or why Jamo or anyone would think he could carry his gun or conceal it in public just because his brother has a proper license. If there were two guns properly stored in the car, both registers to the brother- neither on Jamo- then this would seem silly.

From what I can glean, that isnā€™t what happened though?

Oh I think the officer could have definitely charged Jamoā€¦ā€¦Iā€™m just saying I donā€™t have an issue with him basically giving him a warning under tense circumstances. And Iā€™ll also add I donā€™t really know the whole story either

Thatā€™s YUPONG to you mister !

The fact that Jamo played the ā€œyou know who I am card,ā€ and it actually worked given the cop cam footage makes itā€™s clear the sgt wanted to let him off, and the fact that the news has proof the sgt is a big lions fan, and he audibly thanked the Lt for allowing him to let him off is bad news in cancel culture 2024ā€¦

Not that it matters, but it was also a speeding car with 2 guns in it, and pulled over after midnight.

These guys werenā€™t driving a minivan and carpooling together with weapons safely stored in locked safes in the back, during the 8am commute- stone sober.

I feel for what Josh Reynolds just went through as well, but itā€™s a lot harder to get shot twice at a strip club at 3am if you arenā€™t at a strip club at 3am.

  • many people, average joes are getting into CrossFit, Hit training, cleanses, and even doing 75 Hard and other mind and body commitments to simply live a bit longer.

FWIW- at least he was out fekking around on the bye week, not 2 days before a game?

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Did we trade for Will Anderson and I missed that?

Jamo is a concern but what are we gonna do, cut him?
Some 23 year olds are more mature than others as we all know.
Campbell still believes in him so Iā€™m in full supportā€¦ā€¦

Heā€™s a football player and nothing heā€™s done has been malicious or hurtful to others. Iā€™m interested in supporting 23 year olds that seem like decent humans.

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The bigger issue is whether the organization (front office, coaches & players) begins to lose trust in his availability & contribution this season & into the future. His immaturity is hurting himself & the team & doesnā€™t seem to meet the standards Campbell has set for his players.

Your mistake is thinking that Jamo was carrying or concealing the pistol in public. He did neither. The gun was under the seat. It could have been under his seat, in the glove box, on the back seat or in a center console and it still is not in his possession or on his person. His brother had a valid CPL, which allows him to transport somebody elseā€™s pistol, loaded and not locked in the trunk. If the claim by the cops is that the CPL holder did not announce that he had a CPL and that there were weapons in the vehicle immediately upon the cops coming to the window, thatā€™s a potential violation of the CPL and itā€™s Jamoā€™s brother who would be at fault. Jamo does not have a CPL and was not in possession of a firearm, so he has no liability in not announcing that there were guns in the car. Doesnā€™t matter that he owned one of the pistols, it was being legally transported in a vehicle owned and driven by a CPL holder. Again, this is a nothingburger that will get thrown out if the prosecutor brings charges.

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Deadstroke - The attorney in the video that you posted is incorrect on two different counts. 1st; He said that Jamo was in possession of a pistol without a CPL. That is incorrect. Jamo was a passenger in a vehicle in which a pistol that he owned was being legally transported by a CPL holder. It was not on his person, which would have been required for it to be in his possession. Secondly, the attorney was incorrect by saying that by the letter of the law the CPL holder could only transport Jamoā€™s pistol if Jamo also had a CPL. Absolutely incorrect. The law clearly states that the holder of a valid CPL can transport a weapon owned by someone else and there is no qualification in the law that the other person has to possess a CPL. MCL stands for Michigan Compiled Law, this is the statute in question: " [MCL 28.432 ] An individual can carry, possess, use or transport a pistol belonging to another individual, if the pistol is properly licensed under the Act, and the individual carrying, possessing, using or transporting the pistol has obtained a license to carry a pistol concealed permit from Michigan."

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You donā€™t seem to understand what Iā€™m saying. Itā€™s not a journalist, itā€™s a defense attorney, who probably knows more than you or I.

Different defense attorney, saying the same thing.

## Can I Borrow Guns?

You can borrow a gun from another person if you have a concealed pistol license (CPL) but only under certain conditions, according to the law. You can carry, transport or use another personā€™s pistol only if that individual is licensed to do it.

Jamoā€™s not licensed to do so.

Staying at a Holiday Inn Express, is not the same as the real thing. :smile: :smile:

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May not have the answer to this, or i am confused which is 100% likely in this murky environment with different legal interpretations from various michigan legal professionals, but to me this would also read as jamo could have not even been in the car and still gotten a felony charge?

If not why would it matter about the gun owners cpl status?