I would say be careful here. This is the crux. AI can download, analyse, and simulate “human experience” but it’s still a simulation. It’s meta.
I doubt very much that AI could produce something close to as good as any of the games you mentioned or even Hollow Knight, Hades, Dead Cells level good. Those took humans to make and an imitation would feel like…well…an imitation
I didn’t read all of this thread but did parts throughout
I think one of the disconnects is that AI doesn’t have to necessarily be better than humans, it just has to be more profitable. If a studio can produce and distribute a movie for 10% of the costs using AI that substantially reduces its risks, and increases the likelihood of greater profitability, even at lower total gross
I will further assert that eventually AI franchises will gain a foothold. Go back to watch the original Star Wars. It was a bad story with worse acting but world class special effects. And turned into one of the great franchises. It is inevitable that AI will eventually duplicate this
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I disagree. Starwars had the charm that Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, James Earl Jones and Alec Guiness brought to their roles.
Sub in generic actors and that movie simply does not work.
They were generic actors (Alec Guiness, notwithstanding)
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This assumes audiences will be willing to pay for it. If the streaming services become simply flooded with AI art, I don’t think people will be engaged enough to actually subscribe in great enough numbers to make it fly for very long.
I was using them as an example of real people connecting with not real people in reference to wanting real human actors vs Ai generated actors
Perhaps and there is a part of me that hope you are correct
However I am old enough to remember how bad television was in the ‘70s. Because of money, the storytelling and acting has improved enormously over the decades. If not for this, the current streaming environment could not exist. I am not so pollyannish as to deny that same financial motivation could promote a new evolution of story telling dominated by non human storytellers
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They were generic then, they’ve since proven themselves to have been much, much more. Don’t mistake great fortune with inevitability.
I remember people saying that about podcasts vs radio or online news vs legacy media… There’s a reason the newer platforms are more popular than ever while the old ones wither and die… Like newspapers and phone books, they’ll be replaced
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In theory, robots could replace NFL players and run faster and hit harder than real humans. But I’m not going to be pulling for a robot in the same way as a player who I know has busted his balls just to get into the league and makes plays when the money downs come.
Sure, but I mean you don’t need to look farther than cartoons to make that work. My point is only that humanity needs be front and center to succeed. The voice acting in RDR2 could not resonate with fake actors. Or at least I don’t think so. The uncanny valley would be apparent.
I have tapped out the term uncanny valley a few times in this thread but edited it, lol.
I mean, what great works did Mark Hamill and Carrie Fischer accomplish other than Star Wars? Harrison Ford? Sure, home run, but even with more star power of the prequels (Natalie Portman, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor) the story and movie sucked… Humans can also foul up the whole thing… I’d argue they write crap more than they write good stories
Marvel movies are such crap, I figured they already were developed by AI. I would rather commit harakiri than watch Marvel movies for the rest of my life.
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This to me goes back to the AI art vs. Van Gogh. We’re just not on the same page about the value.
Idk, I think certain things resonate differently with different people and generations… My point really comes down to this, I already see people relating to dumb, sometimes sloppy Ai generated characters after only a few years of development… It’s going to get much MUCH better very soon. I mean, we all remember dial up, all it’s issues, I doubt people then would’ve ever thought it’d be the primary source of communication after the first 2-3 years of its existence… Yet here we are.
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That’s a great word for it… And everyone has a different idea of that word. I value time outdoors with my people… Some value being alone in bed with fake friends 
the latter is becoming more and more common
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I have a lot of artist friends, some working artists who are super intense about art and have been both academically and popularly successful.
They will roll their eyes when you bring up Van Gogh. But none of them would ever question why he was a revolutionary painter and artist and stands the test of time more than millions of others.
He made zilch for his work during his lifetime.
Reminds me of Jason Isbell’s line about the current stage of country music in Nashville. To paraphrase:
“Lotsa great burgers in this town, nobody forcing you to eat at Macdonalds.”