Okorie + keeping Stew and Holland and another future 1st >>>>>1 year of Herro@$40m.
Adding Powell and still keeping Stew and Holland and picks
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Langdon has surpassed ben johnson on the hate list
Congrats matt millen with a slight tan
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Because most big trades happen before the draft.
If theres a trade now it’s lower end. Aka not a number 2.
Point is this is the 3rd season in a row they dont give Cade help. They are gonna be at the apron after extending Thompson and Duren. and the FA market is dog water,
So how is this team OFFENSIVELY gonna be championship caliber again?
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Well–
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Hell of movie. I actually enjoyed the 2nd as well
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Than Mara? Insanity!
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He’s a really skilled tough shot maker. Think of him like Cam Thomas if he wasn’t a total shit. Still think he was over-drafted but the kid can play.
The two comps I’ve heard - Dennis Schroeder and (!!) Kyrie Irving (right after the pick). Schroeder is a safer comp, though Scroeder has a little head case baggage that Okorie does not.
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https://x.com/i/status/2069737371323478351
Usually means the pick isn’t getting moved in another trade when the team announces it like this.
Corliss Williamson comp?
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Does Okorie make Daniss part of a trade package?
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Seems like a fair amount of smartest msg board posters in the room for certain.
I know nothing about this guy except what I read this am.
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Yea, I asked, but not for those answers, i want others.
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Yea, Mara is 260lbs he isn’t rail thin strong lower half as well from articles in the past.
I could see that. But I also dont see the pistons making a big trade. They had 1st rounder and drafted a player anyway. My quess is Norman Powell will be a piston. Can shoot but hes up there in age at 33
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I dont hate the pick. I just hate making a pick. I don’t think a rookie helps them get to the next level at all.
Theathletic:
Okorie’s game is one of extreme strengths that are highly valued in today’s NBA and one of weaknesses that could counteract those strengths. Namely, when Okorie is attacking off the bounce, there is no better guard in this class at touching the paint. His handle and reactivity to how defenders play him are lethal, and he has incredible tools to collapse defenses.
But what happens after he collapses those defenses needs to improve. He needs to become a better finisher and a much more consistent passer for the offense to flow. He also needs to iron out how quickly he gets the ball out of his hands as a shooter and to become a stronger defender to reach league average. The names I think of when I watch Okorie are former Dallas Mavericks guard Roddy Beaubois and current Cleveland Cavaliers point guard Dennis Schröder. Beaubois looked poised to have a long NBA career before injuries struck in Dallas, and Schröder has lived in the lane and averaged double figures for the last 12 years.
Ultimately, Okorie is worth a top-20 pick because being able to touch the paint in the biggest moments is incredibly important. Okorie has upside beyond that, too, given his youth and incredible production. But there are flaws to work through that could limit his NBA impact early on.
Hollinger’s analysis: I had Karim López rated higher, but in terms of the Pistons’ needs, it’s hard to argue with a high-scoring guard whose analytics jumped off the page. While he’ll have to improve as a distributor, Okorie’s scoring should add some punch to what were some pretty moribund Detroit second units. That said, giving up three second-round picks to move up four spots is a pretty rich premium in a draft thick with point guard prospects. Grade: B+
Theathletic on Philbon:
If Philon had stayed in the draft last year, he would have been one of my 20 favorite bets to carve out a long-term NBA career. I love his basketball IQ with and without the ball. I still feel that way this year, which is why he has a top-20 grade on this board. His improvement as an on-ball player this season while transitioning into that role could not have gone better, as he led the Alabama offense to a top-three mark in the country while putting up video-game-like numbers. The stats are certainly inflated by the spacing and pace of Alabama’s offense, but Philon had a terrific season. His improvement as a finisher at the rim potentially changes his trajectory, making him a possible starting point guard if things break right.
However, his lack of strength, questionable frame and lack of true explosiveness create several questions about his translation to the next level, along with his inability to merge offensive and defensive value in the same season. I feel much more comfortable with him outside of the lottery than within it, as there is a good chance he’ll end up being something like a Dennis Schröder-style guard who starts for a few years but settles in best as more of a sixth man. If the whole three-level scoring package along with the defense translates, however, there is some Mike Conley-ish upside as a sub-All-Star starting lead guard.
Hollinger’s analysis: A scoring guard with a splendid array of finishes, Philon should add some juice to the non-Tyrese Maxey minutes in Philly once he gets his NBA sea legs. The Sixers have no viable backup point guard at the moment, so Philon could play right away. Philon also ends up being the last in the wave of eight point guards who projected to go between picks No. 5 and No. 25. Grade: B+
I think this analysis is spot on. Its funny that both Okorie and Philon are simultaneously being compared to Schroeder. This same author also gave the Pistons a B+ on Okorie.
Both are smallish score-first combo guards with decent shots. Both have work to do on defense. Okorie is a bit beefier and maybe can play through contact better. Philon may have a slight edge as a finisher and shooter, though Okorie has a little bit better FT%. Philon is an inch and half taller, while Okorie has an inch and half longer wingspan. They are very similar players.
I know our staff did a ton of work on Okorie, and perhaps the difference was they felt he was a better character risk..both of his parents are Harvard grads. I’m willing to give Langdon the benefit of doubt.
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That’s a great question. It would seem that between Okorie, Jenkins and Sasser, one is the odd man out. I’d want to move Sasser, but I think Jenkins’ contract is a real steal, so it makes his value better in a trade package. But I’d hate to lose Jenkins, he could really blossom, while Sasser’s ceiling is lower I think.
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