People only got worked up over that call because they wanted Brady/Brees. Yeah it was pass interference. But people act like it was egregious. Watch it live from the aerial view point and the play was very close to bang/bang. Now if you watch the slow motion with the misguided angles it looks worse. I always point to how the Saints receiver didnāt even think it was pass interference. Which is why he jogs back to the sideline like it was a routine play. Doesnāt even look at the ref or ask for a flag.
Yes, I know. Very few agree with this take. But it is what it is.
It also didnāt āloseā the game. NO still got a FG to take the lead with less than a minute and a half left. I just watched the end of the game. Goff made some really nice throws under pressure to tie the game. NO also got the ball first in overtime
Yeah that doesnāt fit narratives. Especially the one where the Rams were the only team ever to benefit from a bad call. Most overrated bs ever in my opinion. Iām not even sure how catchable the pass was. The Saints reciever litteraly got up jogged to the sideline without looking at the official or asked for a flag. I agree by rule it was pass interference. But live it was very bang/bang.
And yes Goff was absolutely clutch that year. Especially under pressure. He made some nice plays with his legs that season. Its why I say 2018 is the best Rams QB play Iāve seen since Warner. Goff was good in Detroit last year. But he was off the charts in 2018. Iām curious if that guy ever shows up again.
Edit: not sure you saw the overtime throws or not. But those were arguably better then the ones during regulation. Litteraly made plays with instant pressure.
Goff was very clutch in the OT drive that wouldnāt have ever happened had the refs done their job correctly and called the penalty. They screwed up so bad the NFL Temporarily changed the rules.
Whatās funny to me is every time we talk about Stafford winning a Super Bowl we hear the āHe was a dropped INTā from never getting there. That dropped INT happened with more than 9 minutes remaining in the 4th quarter. But with this no-call PIT itās not the same energy or understanding. Iām confused by thatā¦.
Oh! You noticed that too? There was a penalty that wasnāt called or there was a pick that should have been caught when itās their point to be proven but itās a ādoesnāt fit the narrativeā when itās a point they dislike. So they mock and create threads mocking people for daring to have an opinion that is different and even entertain other ideas. But at the same time they will play the victim card and talk about being a victim when they get called out.
If you watch how Sean Payton handled the final minutes of that game, it made no sense. It was a classic case of overthinking things and trying to get too cute.
Who said Iām insisting on revisionist history? Iām suggesting and have always suggesting be authentic and consistent and not cherry pick when it suits your argument. You want to say the tart interception impacted the outcome of the game then what did the Skowren dropped td do for the rams? That impacted the game as well.
I am also suggesting that in all honestyā¦ā¦if we are gonna sit here and suggest that the refs HELPED Stafford get that ring. Then we shouldnāt be sitting here and saying āGoff took the rams to the super bowlā without at least acknowledging the horrible PI. And maybe just maybe that has something to do with the national and local perception of Goff.
They were all bad. All of them. 1:45 to go. PI on the 10. This isnāt the 2014 āpick up the flagā and there was 6:50 left in the game and anything could happen. That NO-CALL PI was the worst no PI NO CALL EVER in the modern era of football.
I see @BigNatty Natty didnāt answer my question of exactly what statements of mine were a ādouble standardā. Because itās not there
Iāll help: My statement regarding getting to and winning a Super bowl has been a QB doesnāt do it alone. It requires talent, coaching, team health, and luck
Was Stafford lucky the Niners dropped his pick?
Yes!
Was Goff lucky a defender on his team wasnāt called for PI
Yes!
See how that works? Whereās the double standard from me?
The ironic thing is you are the ones with the double standard. You go apeshit when itās pointed out that Stafford was lucky, his team was healthy and he had help when his Rams won the SB. You only rave about the clutch throws. You want to believe he did it more alone with his sole greatness.
When clutch throws and game tying and winning are pointed out from Goff, when he became the youngest QB to ever win a Championship game you donāt acknowledgeā¦ All you do is bring up the game to say some luck was involved. Which none of us have ever denied. Because that supports my argument. See how that works? Iām being consistent. Youāre the ones with the double standard.
Hereās something else to chew on - If the Niners donāt drop the pick guess whose mistake is directly responsible for that loss? Thatās not just the Stafford Rams getting lucky thatās Stafford himself getting lucky
Against the Saints if that DB gets called for PI who is directly responsible for that loss? Unless Goff is playing CB itās not him is it?
Even that nuance is lost on you. You may as well cry, āSure Stafford almost possibly lost the Conference Championship game with a terrible arm-punt pick, But the DB on Goffs team almost possibly lost that Conference Championship by not getting a PI flag!ā
I somehow donāt see that lament as being all that persuasive
Thatās not a cherry pick fallacy. You should step back and consider the actual argument being made. The argument I have made and that Lyon is making is all winning SB teams have some luck along the way
