TBH, I don’t follow other teams as close as I used too, read not at all now other Boyd’s Jays comments, but that full post seems accurate description.
Congrats on the win, just finished watching the game.
So were Mark Prior’s.
Both are true. And yet I stand by my claim that most club brain trusts are far more comfortable with long duration big money allocations to position players for obvious reasons.
Really impressive but I don’t think the history element plays into an acquiring club’s thought process. The decision is a risk/reward based one.
They’ll get a haul but how big is going to be related to how many suitors there are. I think it may be far fewer than some would imagine and that has zero to do with how great of a pitcher he is.
I understand how a die hard would want this but I think Harris will be really intrigued by the idea of a five year-seven year window of championship level play. Getting assets for Skubal may be the best way to assure that. That depends on the package I guess.
I don’t expect many either, however, if the right few come to the table it can still work out well.
Prior had his elbow shattered by a 117mph line drive, and no his mechanics weren’t clean before or after that. Inverted W with an unbalanced shoulder, held until front foot plant, not surprisingly blows up your shoulder. Prior retired after unfixable rotator cuff tears
Bondo did this too…Anthony Reyes had an amazing start to his career. Same deal.
I’d like to state for the record that I would rather just keep Skubal and have him walk after this next season than get another JV trade return.
We should only be trading him if the return is actually good.
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USC Mark Prior was lauded for some of the best mechanics ofany amateur power pitcher of that era. He did have both the Giles collision and the line drive that you spoke of. But even before the Giles collision was working through some lower body stuff. Pitching breaks bodies down. But perhaps Mark wasn’t the best example bc of the freaky injury stuff. So I’ll fall back on my Giants knowledge. Matt Cain was thought to have the most pristine mechanics of any of the Giants pitching prospects developed over a 15-20 year stretch. And yet by 31 his arm was messed up.
I’m not a biomechanics expert but from I’ve read there seem to be at least some concerns with Skubal’s delivery. But my greater point is that even with great mechanics the pitching motion puts high degrees of stress on the body. The risk cannot be mitigated entirely even with the best practices.
Then we haven’t even gotten into the every fifth day element.
If the Tigers can get the package that I referenced (a top 25ish guy, a top 50 ish guy, a guy with a decent likelihood of being viewed as a cornerstone prospect (top ten?) within the next 18 months and another high bonus lottery ticket Catcher with encouraging early signs with the bat) they should strongly consider it). Maybe they need an established MLB piece. But I’m not even sure they get the haul that I’m describing bc of supply and demand, Scott Boras’ demands and injury risk concerns.
If it’s the Mets does it have to have McLean to be “good”?
Not necessarily
McLean was off to a very fast start. To me, the centerpiece of any deal with the Mets:
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But why would the Mets include him after that MLB proof of concept? He actually generated a higher WAR/IP than Skubal did last year. And they have six years of team control.
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Because if they don’t then we trade him to the Dodgers or the Yankees, who he could easily sign an extension with.
I just don’t think those teams can come up with as good of a package as the Mets can even without McLean being included. I guess if they’re willing to sell off high end MLB pieces perhaps.
In my view, McLean and Benge would be enough.
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They got 4 good seasons out of him before his arm exploded…but the last 4 years are gonna be rough on that deal. It’s pretty rare for a long term pitcher contract to work out. Just so many disasters.
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Interesting thing… Over the past 2 years….
Tigers are 42-20 in games started by Skubal.
They are 131-131 in the rest of their games.
Call me crazy… but adding some quality bats and a decent starting pitcher to replace Skubal would possibly be a wash when it comes to team record.
In the playoffs???
I would have thought it was vital to keep Skubal…
but if he can’t go past 6 innings most days…
I think that lessens his value in regards to overall team success.
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Add in the injury risk… and I think any team is crazy to pay him anything close to what Boras is going to ask.
Trade him to the NL…. get some good pieces.. and keep building.
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They should have lost that game ….SC blew that big time
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the dumbest trade idea is the idea that we trade him.
https://x.com/mhc_76/status/1979707375046332857?s=46
Might factor into things.
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Personally I don’t think the current Tigers are good enough to win the World Series next year with Skubal. But I do think they have the setup here to build something dynastic. I’d lean into that. I just see this happen all the time in all sports. Teams get ahead of schedule and then adjust the long term strategy. I hope that Harris does not.
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Is this a cap related move bc small market and giant incoming contracts? Or is it something else?
Just curious it wasn’t clear and I kind of like to learn