Red wings offseason

Desperately need to fill that Top 6 winger position.

People are calling for his job.

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And like three defensive positions.

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Are they just baiting teams on Solderbolm?

Like hoping someone picks up the offer sheet?

But not urgently. He’s nowhere near Matt Millen levels of hate and he’s done about as much. At least Quinn made the playoffs once in his five years. And I don’t even really give him any credit for that.

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What would you like him to do? You can’t force FAs to sign here. The ones that he has signed for he’s had to overpay for because people don’t want to be here and people hate that too. You can make trades, but it takes two to tango, well, actually 3, because the player you’re trading for is either going to want to sign or not sign here long term. No point in giving up assets for a guy who won’t be here.

Until this last season, the Wings had improved every season and have built up one of the better farm systems in the league. I know it’s been a while, but I don’t think people understand how bad of a state the Wings were in when Steve came back.

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Steve has made 1 good FA/Trade. Kat.

Kane doesnt count because he wanted to go where ever Kat did.

So in 7 years 1 good FA/Trade? Horrible job. Absolutely unacceptable

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I love Yzerman. I consider him one of the few Detroit sports figures that I was fortunate to watch his entire career.

As a GM though? Enough is enough. It’s still early in the off-season but if we don’t improve this team significantly, I’m all about getting rid of him.

Ideally yes, but unless someone is willing to take on contracts, it’s pretty unlikely we’re going to see any of Chiarot, Holl, or Gus moved. And other than possibly ASP or maybe Wallinder/Buium, it’s not like we have guys knocking down the door to come up next season.

Maybe offer longer than two years to big names. ā€œTermā€ is like a naughty word for Steve that he isn’t allowed to say and if he does he has to put a dollar in the swear jar.

Hes a hero.

Larkin probably going to asked to be traded. He was pissed at the deadline. I wonder whats his thoughts now

Yes, because I’m sure ā€œtermā€ is the only reason FAs don’t want to sign here. It’s almost like there are 31 other teams that also have money and better situations to offer FAs. It’s no different than fans being upset when Brad doesn’t make a move. We have no idea what conversations were had. Clearly he will give term to guys like Cat, Raymond, Seider, etc.

IMO, he’s building very similarly to the Lions, Tigers, and Pistons. It just takes time in hockey. The Tigers sucked for a long time too, and look at them now.

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And therein lies the problem. No other fanbase would allow a great all-time player to be a GM with these results. I don’t care if it was Barry being Lions GM. After five years of nothing, goodbye. Thanks for the memories but you gotta go.

Every other NHL franchise has turned their team around much faster.

7!!! YEARS! Since steve took over. 11 years from a REAL team. It doesnt take THAT long to make a DECENT team.

Im not saying Cup contenders just GOOD.

This current team MIGHT get 80 points. Miss the playoffs AGAIN. And do nothing

Oh i agree. Wings fan base only sees what he was .

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Theres got to be another Holl type player out there

There is no other team that has started where the Wings were, aside from shitty expansion teams back in the day. The Wings had ZERO talent in the farm system, basically only Larkin in the NHL. FFS, Athanasiou was the second leading scorer on the team when Steve took over. Bad contracts - LOL JUSTIN ABDELKADER. FRANS NIELSEN. Ken Holland absolutely GUTTED this team from top to bottom to keep the playoff run alive and the second he saw it was over, he bolted.

There is no other team that has started from absolutely nothing and been a contender in 7 years. Stop it. The Wings had Larkin and a bunch of literal scraps in the entire organization 2019 when Steve came back.

Has Steve been perfect? Nope. Definitely made some mistakes along the way. But he hits on his 1st rounders, has made the team fun to watch most nights, have improved every year until this last season, and on the cusp of the playoffs 2 years in a row, and built an organization that had almost no talent from top to bottom to being competitive in the NHL and noted as one of the better farm systems in the league in the levels below.

So let’s stop pretending like Yzerman has done ā€˜NOTHING’ in 7 years. It’s day 1 of free agency and there is still roughly $15m to work with. Adding a Top 6 forward and Top 4 defenseman is still a possibility. I’m not sure why there’s all this crying 3 hours into FA. The trade for DeBrincat didn’t happen until like a week and a half into the FA period.

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We need a top 2 def and a top 4 top 6 foward. I dont see none of that happening. Thank gosh we got a 31 year old goalie. Well im taken the dog swimming. Hope to hear something good

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They have ~10-15 prospects teams would WANT. They have $15m in space this year and $50m next year. All their draft picks.

They have made how many trades in the past 7 years again? Trades that actually help the wings?

1 KAT. Every other trade is a nothing burger for a bandaid or griffen.

Oh and dont get me started on Walman.

This team. Is an absolute joke. Why sign JVR and JBD and mitchell and trade for Gibson

Just bring up all the young kids at that point. See what you got.

These signings are just blocking all these ā€œeliteā€ prospects.

So if your not trading the prospects. And not bringing up the prospect for significant play time. Then whats the point?