We knew Tariq Wooten was gonna fly. Raw as sushi right now, but major tools.
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Most of them are pretty well documented. Danny Gray ran something like 10.6 back in HS. McCollum had supposedly ripped off sub 4.4 times in camps in HS. Doubs and White were the two that suprised me a bit.
I really hope Tolbert becomes a target. I still see a lot of can’t separate takes which I don’t get. He absolutely roasts Kendrick in that clip. I think he’d compliment St. Brown rather well.
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Yep, if Tolbert is our early round WR I like it.
I want two WRs whether that’s a FA and a draft pick or two top 100 draft picks.
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Another view. One other criticism is his release which looks great here. Of course he doesn’t face a jam which is probably the primary concern with him.
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If there isn’t a run on DE’s you’re probably right, but I think teams are going to pluck them early and often.
Really good edge class. I’d love to move off of 2 if there’s a trade offer of anything close to chart value for that (among other) reasons. I just don’t see who anyone is trading up for.
Maybe the Falcons at 9, Maybe the Giants. Pretty unlikely though
Production stats are only a part of an evaluation, not the whole thing. Your hyper focus on them would have had you miss out on guys like:
George Kittle, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Rashawn Gary, Chris Jones, Danielle Hunter, Alvin Kamara, Stephon Diggs, Kolton Miller, Terron Armstead, Brett Favre, Terrell Davis, Odafe Oweh, Davis Mills, etc…
Now you might counter to this by picking through the minutiae of these guys collegiate careers for productive games, but that would be cherry-picking. The consensus on all of these guys as prospects were that they were lacking in production for one reason or another.
I was waiting to see him against Senior Bowl competition and so far he’s looked great, yeah. Just hard to know whether he was beating up on inferior athletes or not.
Except Williams was wildly productive. I didn’t watch a ton of Ole Miss but when I did he really popped simply as a dude with true 3-4 Edge size having those kind of movement skills. Can’t say I watched him enough to say this firsthand but the scouting report seems to suggest he still lacks refinement. That if true is kind of a glass half empty/half full situation.
Right he wouldn’t even really qualify for that list, not if I was being genuine, but it’s his production that’s being picked apart.
Not the same at all. In fact, I said with George Kittle that IOWA never used him properly and that he would kill it in the pro’s. The guy absolutely blew up the combine.
An Edge/DE can beat a single OL like a drum and skew his numbers, why you thought all those positions were in any way similar is interesting. Williams numbers are likely to rise once he hits the combine, he’s been clocked in the 4.4’s and measured a 40" vertical.
"The bottom line is Williams is an extremely athletic 6-4, 265-pound specimen who was once timed at 4.4 in the 40-yard dash and measured as having a 40-inch vertical. "
I mentioned multiple sacks vs those teams because he was going against lesser competition and was beating the same guy. And if “a” sack vs Alabama was all that then he should be able to do it every week against everyone. When you are evaluating a player like Williams you can’t discount how he arrived at his measurable’s.
So what is it that we have here? Well, an athletic guy, something you can’t teach. Good floor, can you coach him up from here is the question.
I wasn’t too concerned about that bc Tennessee had no answer for him.
So why is sacks in two of the three games against Alabama a reach then? It just seems to me like your competition level filter is at least somwhat selective.
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So nothing else matters, just having “a” sack against Alabama in 2 out of 3 games? It’s ONE sack, Bryce Young was sacked 39x this year, in fact he was sacked 3x by Ole Miss this year, how is having ONE of those a great accomplishment?
It’s not a big deal. I think you’re cherry picking a big. You clearly do not share that view and that’s okay.
Everyone knows George Kittle was underused at Iowa. If you’re saying you knew that while he was there (I think you’re an Iowa fan?), kudos, I’ll take your word for it, but he still had bad production and the way you look at prospects, I don’t think you would have had him very high.
I used all positions because you take the same production-based approach to evaluating players at every postion. You do it with Willis, you do it with literally everyone we’re talking about, regardless of position. And I’m not saying it’s a bad thing - production should absolutely be a part of the evaluation process. But only a part, not the whole thing.
The problem is your using sacks as your metric. Pressure rate is far, far more important, sacks are too dependent on other things (how fast does the QB get the ball out, is he mobile, does someone else get there first). It’s why I was so high on Oweh last year. And in pressure rate, Sam Williams is a top 7 guy in the country (The 2021 College Football All-SIS Teams - Sports Info Solutions). If you’re regularly beating your guy in the SEC, you’re a good prospect.
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How can I be cherry picking when I am using where all his sacks came from and you are only using where one came from? Isn’t using a “single” event the definition of cherry picking?