Lamar and smart are 2 words that generally shouldn’t go together in the same sentence. He scored a 13 on his Wonderlic test and it shows.
While we see pics of Goff & company working out together, the only thing we get from Lamar is tweets. He’s coming off an injury. He reportedly could have played in the playoff game but decided to leave his teammates in the lurch.
As I posted earlier, I’m sure Baltimore was HOPING that some team would give them a pair of firsts for Lamar and just be done with the whole mess.
How does it show ?
A guy with no guarantee contract didn’t play in a game worth millions while he was hurt is … not necessstily a dumb decision. It hasn’t even stopped ravens from offering him a boat load of money.
People have already shown on here his strategy isn’t bad. He’s in line to make as much as they offered in tags.
not sure what I’d score on wonderlic ? You ever take it ?
An agent would have pushed for a deal to be signed after the MVP season, his 2nd year in the league. An agent wouldn’t have let him play his 4th year for only $1.7 mill. Lamar would have been set. Baltimore would have paid.
Now fast forward to 2 straight years of missing multiple games for injuries and Baltimore is a bit hesitant to pay the guy. Then he tweets goodbye to everyone, once again, something a moron would do, not someone being advised on strategy by an agent.
Lamar has created this mess. He’s essentially in a “no win” situation. Any team trading for him has to give up draft capital AND pay the huge contract. He’s already partially burned his bridges in Baltimore. Even if he comes back to Baltimore and plays under the tag, everyone knows he’s not happy. His teammates want to win but they know Lamar is in it for himself and not the team.
A smart QB knows that his success is based on the success of those around him. You can remain friendly with everyone on the team and the coaches and let your agent be the “bad guy”. Lamar has set himself up as the bad guy by trying to act as his own agent.
Couldn’t disagree more. They will match any offer sheet, even a fully guaranteed contract.
He would have played his fourth year for $1.7M no matter what. Josh Allen played his fourth year for $3.3M, but he also got $16.7M on his extension. The NFL doesn’t rip up contracts, they add to the existing contract.
If Lamar Jackson signs a deal this year, he will earn far more than Josh Allen has and will earn.
That’s just the narrative spun by Baltimore through the media, to project to their fans that Baltimore isn’t the bad guy. Lamar has done nothing different than what Dak Prescott did (through an agent).
After Lamar’s 3rd year was the time to get the deal done for sure. Just like the Lions will get a deal done with St. Brown after his 3rd season next offseason.
Teams want to get deals done early, they pay cash up front, but pay lower APY throughout the deal.
Players are always better off waiting, unless they get hurt or their talent regresses.
That’s exactly why IMO Lamar should have done the deal after year 3 like Allen. Lamar’s injury risk is very high with his style of play. So is Allen’s to be honest. Dude never slides, takes a ton of shots. But at least if Allen gets hurt, he’s still got 150 mill guaranteed.
I think I read average was 20
I wonder what you’d get now?
Also I was told that industry people around these tests don’t see it as fully telling a whole story and they’re moving to other types of tests to balance the info.
That is the crux. Based on Lamar’s play style, and recent history, he’s not as likely to get the big payday down the road.
He missed 5 games the last 2 seasons and is rumored to have been able to play in the playoffs but decided it was better for him to sit out and not risk injury.
Most QB’s are looking for the big payday AFTER they had a great season. Lamar is looking for everyone to ignore the last 2 seasons like they never happened.
What the Lions will do isn’t really relevant to the Ravens. Its a different organization with a different way of conducting business. They don’t have a precedent of signing their 1st round picks after only 3 seasons. They make them wait.
I think that was true at one point. There comes a time when every team/GM/owner reaches a breaking point and says enough is enough.
As far as we know, no team has come to the plate and offered up a deal. That tells me that no team values Lamar enough to give up the pair of firsts for him. If he was a UFA, something would be done by now. But he’s not.
Baltimore is screwed no matter what happens.
1 - They have to keep the cap space available in case he signs the tag
2 - Lamar has said he wants to be gone, so even if he signs the tag, you are dealing with a disgruntled QB that has already put himself over the team when he sat out the playoff game
3 - The longer this goes on, the less likely Baltimore is to draft/sign a replacement QB even if they do find a partner willing to take Lamar off their hands.
4 - Anyone even slightly interested in Lamar is better to just sit on the sidelines and wait for the entire thing to come crashing down. They would be able to get Lamar for much less as Baltimore would probably be willing to take what they can get.
And even when they do make them wait like Ronnie Stanley, as soon as they gave him a massive 110 million dollar extension he immediately got hurt and has hardly played since. Tough break. The Lions have had similar issues. Ragnow, Okwara, and Walker all got seriously injured right after paying them.
No one wants to negotiate a deal that is just going to be matched. Many agents and former NFL front office execs have reiterated this.
That’s really not an issue. If Baltimore were to sign Lamar long-term with the signing bonus, he’d count near $20M (or more), so it’s only a $12M difference and Baltimore can create $20M cap space with 3 simple restructures, if needed.
Just a negotiation ploy. Media’s “disgruntled players” end up returning to the team the majority of the time.
2 years minimum and even then he would be on the 3rd tag making $57M, he’d be tradeable for at least a couple of 1st round picks.
I remember how the media was reporting how Dak Prescott was disgruntled and hampering the Cowboys from building their roster. Dak was franchised twice, so we have another year before Lamar even gets to the point of where Dak was.
