Tigers vs Braves; Sept 19-21

Or Seattle is red hot

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Cal Raleigh with 58 homers for a catcher is insane. He better win mvp. Judge has great numbers but he’s a right fielder who has DHing for 2 months

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Think I heard today that, like Dingler, Raleigh also hasn’t had a passed ball all season.

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Judge will win. Bigger market

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So…..

just to clarify…. you wouldn’t take Skubal out of a tied 1-1 game…
after 6 innings… and then replace him with a rookie RHP….
knowing that Ramirez was due to hit 2nd in the 7th inning….
and knowing Ramirez is hitting .321 against RHP… vs… .265 against LHP… and higher SLG and OPS as well…..

and THEN…… let that rookie RHP pitcher try to throw off-speed pitches on the inside half of the plate to Ramirez??? :thinking:

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I would not. Then again wasn’t Skubal battling an injury last week.

While not defending Hinch choosing Melton in that situation, Ramirez does well vs Skubal. I’m guessing it was the third time Ramirez was going to face Skubal in that game.

Ramirez vs Skubal
Avg .367
OBP .387
SLG .533
OPS .920

Thinking Think GIF by Rodney Dangerfield

Wow. That is seriously impressive numbers vs a Cy Young. All the more reason to walk him. They don’t have any other good hitters.

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The real kicker to me is that Kwan was the leadoff hitter.

Would have rather had a lefty pitch against Kwan & Ramirez…
even if it was Holton or Hurter.

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And Kwan is hot garbage vs lefties this year. .250 batting average with 0 home runs

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Somehow Kwan has a 3.4 WAR which is higher than any of the Tigers despite only having 55 RBIs on the season. They must really like his defense.

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yea he is a darn good fielder. Plus the stolen bases helps his WAR

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All the more reason to plunk him.

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haha that works! The counts 2-0 and the calls for a fastball. I’m naked somewhere behind second base :joy:

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I would still stick with maybe back to back cy young winners. He has 64 percent chance of getting him out.

Every game that the Tigers needed to go their way went their way today. I mean except for one.

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Cracking Up Lol GIF

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# Wojo: Familiar maladies haunt sinking Tigers, who must hit road to save their season
full article at link.

After all, they’d seen the complete reverse of it. Last season’s run was almost incomprehensible. If this collapse concludes without a playoff berth, it’s equally incomprehensible. Last August, the Tigers had a .02% chance of making the playoffs, according to FanGraphs, and went on a 31-13 streak to squeeze in. On Aug. 22 this season, they had a .02% chance of missing the playoffs and have gone 7-18.

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In July, the Tigers lost 12 of 13 as the trade deadline loomed. When it arrived July 31, they’d recovered to win four straight. Perhaps that brief stretch lulled Scott Harris, president of baseball operations, and Hinch into a false sense of well-being, as they still led the division by eight games.

So Harris went bargain-shopping and added a collection of used arms with ragged records – starters Charlie Morton and Chris Paddack, and relievers Paul Sewald, Rafael Montero, Codi Heuer and Kyle Finnegan. He said he took the conservative approach because he didn’t want to part with the team’s elite prospects in “moves that were going to haunt us for many years to come.”

When the final word is written, that’s what might haunt them. The rotation and bullpen were wracked by injuries, and only one newcomer – Finnegan – has offered much help. Morton, 41, was released after five straight miserable outings.

Hinch and the players keep saying the same things and their stoicism is admirable, but their play doesn’t match their words. We rightly focus on Harris and Hinch, but make no mistake, it’s been a total team collapse.

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It’s almost unfathomable how suddenly they fallen. Nine days ago, they had a nine-and-a-half game lead in the division. Since then, they’ve gone 1-9 and the Guardians have gone 10-1.

It’s no longer a pennant race; it’s a pennant trudge. Night after night, you expect it to shift, and night after night, Hinch calmly tries to explain what happened, and struggles to do so.

“I know everybody has to be tired of the same answers, and we’re tired of the same results,” Hinch said. “You do everything you can to get a win, and right now it feels like it’s eluding us in so many different ways. We can handle it because we have a good team.”

Total team collapse

The 6-5 loss to the Braves Saturday provided a new cruel twist. Spencer Torkelson clubbed a two-run homer and victory seemed imminent as the Tigers led 5-4 headed to the ninth. They were 75-0 when leading after the eighth inning. Naturally, the Braves pushed across two runs with two outs against normally dependable reliever Will Vest, and the huge crowd mustered mild boos.

So maybe trading the prospects is the short-term answer. And I’m not sure this team is worthy of any “F-ck them draft picks” approach. In fact, I’m sure they’re not. But for god sakes, play those prospects if they’re as good as you claim. We’re playing Sweeney and Jung here. Stop doing that.

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