Not really. You can agree one take is right, and one take is wrong. You can’t get a great take from the stupidest human alive or he really isn’t all that stupid.
Goff’s absolute floor is about 20 (I’d be shocked)
Goff’s ceiling is 10, though his stats could make him look higher.
I’ve explained this before. I view Stafford as 7, but his stats show out like he was the 3rd best last year in most “measurables.”
Goff is approximately #15 in my eyes.
The difference between 12-15 is not that much…but the difference between dipping into the top 7-8 is BIG.
I think Goff is a borderline franchise QB. There will be massive debate over that soon…because he’s BORDERLINE.
Last preseason, I heard one fo the coaches say “it’s not the QB’s job to win games.” When taken out of context, it sounds a little “off,” but I take it to mean…“we don’t need a superstar QB to pull us out of a hole.”
Truthfully, I wish we had one that could. Can Goff develop into a top 8 guy? I think the stat-lovers are going to be very, very happy. I think the stat-guys are going to think they have a top 6 or 8 guy, next year. The “eye test” guys may/may not want something more.
QB controversy is gonna get bigger when we win 10 games. Goff is gonna win a lot of you us over.
Simms opinion on Jamo has absolutely zero to do with the PFT/Simms grudge against Goff.
Three years ago Florio was screaming to the world that there was no way the Rams would give Goff an extension. He went on all the talk shows and for some reason staked his reputation on the idea that the Rams would not extend Goff.
The Rams then extended Goff, and Florio had a meltdown. He can’t move past it.
So yes, PFT and Simms will shit on Goff all day, everyday, regardless of how he plays … as many of you have already figured out.
I could see it as possible, but not likely.
Biggest reason I feel that way is Dan Campbell.
The new philosophy is gonna help a ton.
I think we will have an offense ranked around 7, with a 17th (or so) ranked Defense.
Totally agree. If our offense stays healthy, and adds Jamo in late October/November, they should be well above average.
The defense is all about potential, and almost zero proven commodities. It really is a hope and a prayer. Things might work out, and they might not. It will be very interesting to see what AG can do with this group.
yup - We’re gonna get back so many dudes from injury as well. Love the 2 new additions to the DL in Hutch and Pachal. Hope Levi and Alim can step up, but clueless on what to expect from any of these 4.
I am confident in the defensive backfield. Elliot will be good in the 10-15 games he starts ;). Kirby will surprise late in the season. The CBs are going to have an amazing floor as a unit, but not sure what their ceiling is, though I think it’s really nice.
LBs …more question marks. AG is the most important man to our defense by a mile, and he will get the ceiling out of them.
In thinking of where they were last year, and how they got that way…missed assignments and missed tackles up front were a big part of the reason there were so any bigger plays that should have been 5-7 yarders. IMO.
There will be much more continuity with the playbook this year, and mistakes are still gonna happen more than we like…but far less than last year. We are still a very young team.
This is one take where I 100% agreed with Florio and Simms. Goff should not have been extended at the contract and timing he was. My biggest gripe with Snead has been the huge contracts he’s been doing. It’s almost never worked out (Gurley, Goff). Even the one that looks the best, Donald, he may retire this year and already wants another.
Goff was good after 17/18 but not worth a top contract. They still had 2 years left.
I don’t think anyone would argue with you on that.
That wasn’t really the point of my post … it’s the irrational anger Florio and Simms have for Goff due to the contract. Goff didn’t give himself that contract … right?
They should really redirect their Goff hatred to Snead and the Rams. Of course they can’t currently, because the Rams have the trophy. So they will continue to defame Goff to make themselves feel better.