Why not fix the wr issues with in the free agent class? This isn’t the best wr class this year. Osu studs will be gone before our next pick and Bell maybe gone too. Pick up two wr and get a new CB and then draft defense in the draft.
WR & QB are lower priority than defense.
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NFL rankings suggest otherwise. Still think you have to take KT if he’s there and healthy, but we are working with worst in the league level QB/WR groups. That cannot continue while we “build around it.” We have 4-5 holes on defense IMO. EDGE (we dump Flowers), LB, SS, CB. We know Goff isn’t the answer. Once you make that checkout at QB, you have to go get one.
If it’s a draft pick, maybe you have the luxury of sitting him a year and we could absolutely have that next year with a Goff/Corral. But then we are ready to make noise in 23, not looking for a QB in 23 with a borderline playoff team drafting at 23 due to dominant defense.
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I don’t care what the rankings are.
If I was trying to build a team, I would build a good defense first and then worry about WR (after I get a QB).
If a talented WR drops and becomes the BPA, then sure. But all things being equal, I wouldn’t put a very high priority on WR.
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There are certainly different ways to build. We have no outside playmakers at WR. I have hope Cephus when healthy could be a legit #2, but he’s not healthy right now to get better. It’s a hard projection to just blow it off when you’ve got nothing. Name another position where our on paper #1 and #2 starters going into the season have been shed from the team. When those two guys are that expendable, you are in some real trouble and it’s shown itself clearly in the W/L column. We can’t freaking score TD’s. There have been a lot of games where our defense absolutely played well enough to win, but we made them play 7 more series than they should have played. We are ok at slot, but they are all midgets. We are going to have to invest some capital there. It’s far from low priority. QB… I’ve already covered that and good ones almost never come cheap whether it’s draft capital or FA dollars. I’m not interested in blowing off defense. But QB/WR are absolute needs and critical ones in my humble view. Because that is why we are losing.
#1 Chris Godwin all day. Younger, faster, and a better route runner imo when compared to Mike Williams.
Draft Treylon Burks in the 2nd, size speed big play guy.
Add that to Leaf, Ra & Ceph, and that’s your top 5 WR’S
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Godwin is going to take a max contract, and he will either stay in tampa or go to another contender. I highly doubt we can nab someone like that.
In the modern NFL, I think its less valuable to focus on building defense first. The defenses are already at a huge disadvantage… and having an elite offense seems to make a more consistent winner. Now, Im not saying that you can focus on 1 and not the other… but the days of building consistency through a highly talented defense is slowly drifting away.
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agree… Godwin isn’t going anywhere.
They can franchise him again if needed.
Tampa has about $35 million in cap space for 2022 already… and can create a ton more because they have 7 players that could be restructured with base salaries that total $75 million.
Plus… Florida has zero state income tax… so that is a little extra perk to stay.
I’d do something like George Pickens in the bottom of round 1 or top of round 2, then draft a guy like Justyn Ross in the 3rd or lower. Then find a solid vet leader to lead the room who can produce at a decent level while these guys develop. Mike Williams might work.
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What’s gonna bring FA WRs here is a combo of money + opportunity. Guys like Robinson, Godwin, Adams, etc… who are going to get both of those things no matter where they go are highly unlikely to come here.
I’d bring in a young FA who doesn’t break the bank. My preference is Gallup but he’ll probably be at the upper end of what I’d be willing to pay. Otherwise I’d go after Kirk, Cedrick Wilson, maybe JuJu. I’d also love Sutton if his injury means we can get him at a lower price, but I don’t think that will be the case.
Then I’d add at least one WR in the draft. My preference would be Drake London, though he was flying up draft boards before his injury. Hopefully it means he’ll be available to us with our 1b or 2, but I’m not so sure. His injury isn’t career-threatening and the love for him had gotten so strong I was starting to see him mocked in the top ten. Otherwise one of Burks, Bell, Williams or another would be fine (I think Olave and Wilson will be gone). I’d also take a few late-round flyers on top of that (I loved Darnell Mooney coming out, wish we had taken him late. Also Quez Watkins).
Also I’d remember that it’s the NFL, and sometimes my best-laid plans blow up in my face. It’s possible it takes a few years to fully fix the WR position.
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This is why I come here, folks.
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WR position is ALWAYS available in the free agent market.
The best WR’s we’ve had around here lately were taken in the 3rd round (Golladay) or FA signings Marvin Jones, Golden Tate.
You can get good value at the position because there are so many out there.
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Excellent point. Was scrolling through thinking the same. Detroit is going to have to target guys like they did with Tyrell Williams. JuJu feels like he’s in a similar category. Even Golden Tate, sure he was a 2nd round pick, but in Seattle he never got the opportunity in that offense to bust out. So he was looking for targets. The Lions are going to need to find a guy looking to start, rebuild his value, and eat targets.
I think a good QB that WRs want to play with is also a draw.
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Which is how the Lions ended up with Perriman and Williams lol
The best receiver at Ford Field is slanging Cinabuns as a side hustle.
Kirk will cost around 10…12 million a year now lets say 4 year deal somewhere around 50 mil thats if he stays the full time. I can see one add at that price.
When you look at deals top 2 rd picks got last season teams better off drafting an just keep one or two mid price WR’s
Ja’Marr Chase avg will be 7.7 mil over 4 years
Waddle 6.7 mil per year 4 years
Smith 5mil avg over 4 years
Th rest are 3 or less average over next 4 years. This is why you must be careful an not blow your cap on FA WR;s
Golladay 18 mill average
Godwin 15,8 mill his is one year deal
Just example how price jumps after there first contract.
many more like those.
Its why you look for mid price like a Kirk who was slow to get his career going at high level an he will be like 12 mil
Its why a guy like Jefferson if he gets it going will be asset moving forward
I would rather keep the 3 we have plus Jefferson maybe an add couple from draft.
I think we can get a good one with both are late rd one pick which gives us the option year 5 if he works out an then use rd 2 pick for another or wait to rd 3
When you draft you must look further down the road . You see some teams that are close to winning it all going for it an when that time comes i agree for Lions but we are not close yet.
If you add a WR an CB every draft you can avoid large contracts or try an extend them sooner.
always bring in after the draft at least 4 CB’s an WRs to check out who were not drafted.
We did well this past season at CB an think we have a couple of starters to add to what we have drafted. Take same approach to WR.s an bargain shop for Vets who can help room or even have year left or 2 left.
Thats when you sign example $4,616,176 Emmanuel Sanders the Bills signed an he is having nice year for them an cheap. Thats example when your close to had that vet for year or two. Build in draft 8 games 4 TDs almost 500 yards
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Middling players such as Gallup and Kirk just don’t move the needle for me. I don’t think those players help attract bigger fish down the road. Which is what we are gonna need to be contenders in the future. They are comparable signings to Marvin Jones and Golden Tate. But we don’t have Matthew Stafford to make them look like borderline pro bowlers. They will probably end up like bill schroder and hakim signings because of Goff/a rookie QB throwing to them.
Need a WR who is proven QB proof like Allen Robinson. Or big play stud like Mike Williams who doesn’t need a good throw to make a big play.
I’m paying 15m+ a year for one of those two vs 10-12m for a guy who I have doubts can stand at the top of a depth chart. Robinson and Williams, to me, are nfl #1s and you can overpay for that. Paying a #2 WR 10m+ cause you are counting on drafting your #1 is such a losing mentality. If you can, sign your #1, then do it. If the guy you drafted ends up being that guy also, you can easily afford to pay him when you FA1s contract is up.
You can’t just count on blasting every draft pick. Sign a star and you already have one. He will also make your draft pick better with less attention. Sign a mediocre guy and have your draft pick bust, and we are right back where we are this year…with a trash WR room.
We literally need 1 offensive signing this off-season. Pay for a top talent. Focus on Defense in the draft. Don’t settle for an overpriced #2.
An off-season that we add a ARob/MW, draft Tibs is already a home run for me in terms of adding top talent. With plenty more potential in FA money and high end draft picks 
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And how do you convince them to come play for a team with a poor record and middling QB? There’s more to it than overpaying, Robinson’s on record as wanting to play with a good QB after playing for years with bad ones, so I can pretty much guarantee he’s not coming. Godwin can walk into any team and start, why would he choose us? Davante Adams? No way. Odds are if we try and sign them we strike out, and then the fanbase will complain that we didn’t try and sign a stud WR.
Robert Woods was seen as a middling signing (and an overpay) when the Rams brought him in (when Holmes was there), to play with Goff no less. A guy like Gallup who has #1 skills but has had to compete with Cooper and Lamb for touches is exactly the sort of guy we should be signing. Young, a lot to prove, he’ll want an opportunity to be ‘the guy’.
Mike Williams to me has disaster written all over him. He’s hurt and doesn’t give a shit, and once he’s paid he’ll sit out most the year with little injuries. I personally like Gallup better as a talent, but that’s a difference of opinion on evaluation and that’s fine.
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