I know Many Like Kancey I don't But Have a WHY Question

Oh, I forgot. “/s”

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So your basically saying your smarter then the guys that draft him. You saying that crap hoping by then people forget. Then your opinion of what success is will be different from everyone else.

Regarding the double teams its more like pick your posion. Last year Hutch faced the most double teams in the league and Houston went off. During the G.B. game G.B. focused their attention on Houston and Hutch gets 2 sacks.

Adding Kancey to the lineup will stress the offense. You can’t double them all and Kancey led the nation in single block win percentage.

I don’t know if Kancey is my #1 target at 18 but he’s probably in my top 5. Just depends on how the draft falls.

Maybe the Lions are targeting a bigger dt like Benton and Mazi to rotate with McNeil and Buggs and are fine with rotating Paschal and Comish at dt on passing downs.

I am betting on a player not being worth a 1st or second round pick based on physics and statistics showing zero percent past success.

A lot of GMs make dumb pics that the fans do not like. Whether you think that GM is dumb for making the pic is on you. Statistically it is an aweful bet. When a gm makes an aweful bet and loses the fans never let him live it down. This is a bad bet. And like forest gump said: stupid is as stupid does.

My bet is only based on the player. Not the gm who takes him.

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My theory… People can’t spell or pronounce Adetomiwa Adebawore, that’s why he’s less talked about :joy:

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Additional info, Kancey 9.5 Knee Cap Score, other guy 8.5

I know it’s all made up BS in your book,but go ahead and tell that to Davicus

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To be fair, I like AA a little more than Kancey despite what KCS says lol. His short arms are super scary.

LOL that’s great. No matter how hard of a time I try to give Coyote over the years it always ends up backfiring

Like I said in the KCS breakdown. There are tons of guys I love that don’t make the list. But, what I love and what the Lions draft are apparently different lol

It’s like Gambling.

Don’t bet with your heart.

Bet with data. Use your brain. Use your gut.

KCS and others are great tools. No one should be making decisions on them. At best they are filters.

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I believe in that thinking. To me the concern with Kancey is him getting pushed back off the line in the run game. NFL guards are bigger and way better than what he saw in college. His arm length is way shorter than others before him and it is a real problem that cannot be ignored. Fending off guards in the run game will be extremely challenging.
So to me he is a pass rush specialist and somewhat of a luxury. He is fantastic at getting into the backfield but IMO he would be a situational player and if we move Commish or Pascal inside like you say he becomes less valuable.
Getting him in the 2nd would be low risk/potential huge return but I don’t think he is BPA for the Lions in the 1st. I just think at pick 18 there will be a player available who would make a bigger difference.

for what it is worth, I do think he has the “it” factor Campbell covets. The little train that couldn’t but did.

I still like Bresee, I know I’m in the minority but I think this kid has a high ceiling. The question for him, imo; can he get past the personal circumstances in his life.

I think he will.

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Too clarify, not at 6.

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Your not alone, i like him as well. He absolutely has talent and imo is the no. 2 DT.

Ive heard they really loke AA, and Kancey also seems like a guy they’d love. Though i have concerns about both.

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If you look at him as a DT maybe it’s different? Or is it his PFF scores keeping him out?

I bet upwards of 50% of the people on here have no idea what that means lol. Buncha old fogeys and boomers, I tell ya

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So I generally agree with you about Kancey. I have him ranked higher than you because I can see a path to success or at least contribution, but he’s still a 2nd rounder for me. And the fact that he’s a historical outlier definitely plays into that evaluation.

But, Bryce Young is a historical outlier too, and he’s my #1 overall player in the draft. I’d take him in a heartbeat with the 1st pick. So just being a historical outlier isn’t a reason to avoid him altogether, it’s just one of the checks in the “cons” column. If they have enough that you think they can overcome it, then you can raise them back up the board.

So I understand why people like him despite the short arms, they think he can overcome it like I do with Bryce Young. I wouldn’t touch him as early as people on here want to take him, but at pick 48? I’d be fine with it.

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Kancey’s historical outlier level is a full order of magnitude beyond that of Bryce Young. I can name Kyler as an example of a qb his size who threw a td in the nfl. Name the arm length comparison dl for Kancey?
I would be less mad at 48. But i expect him to be a 25-30% snap guy tops. I see him as a major liability against the run and the last player on earth you want lining up next to James Houston in such a situation.

I would take bryce too. Different positions by far

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He’s part of a poor defensive line class… You’ve got your…

  1. Guy who has everything but the motor.
  2. Guy who has really long arms
  3. Undersized pass rush specialist with T-Rex arms
  4. Big guy who crushed the combine with meh production.
  5. Little guy who crushed the combine with meh production.
  6. The guy who never started for his college team
  7. Local kid, looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

Take your pick.

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